• IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
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    I remember the first time I went to an anime convention, and was SO EXCITED because they were going to host a DDR tournament!

    Then I went into the room where the tournament was supposed to be held and almost died. They were routinely shutting down the room just to try to air it out, and were doing routine announcements of “I do not care if you think you do not smell. Everyone needs to go back to their hotel and shower before coming back. We are serious.”

    I didn’t enter the tournament.

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      Man, thatd be super disappointing. I wish DDR was an active scene still, went with my kid to an arcade recently and for half a minute I thought they had DDR, but it was a copy cat that only had diagonal arrows and a center button (don’t remember which, in the groove maybe). Luckily I have a metal pad and my PS2 still works.

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      Turns out neurodivergent people think showering is what keeps them from smelling and refuse to regularly apply Anti-Perspirant.

      Or worse, nobody ever told them ‘Deodorant’ lasts a whopping 2 hours compared to anti-perspirant.

      Like flushable wipes, yes, it says it lasts 48 hours, it’s bullshit. A few swipes in the morning in each pit, a few swipes every evening especially if you’re even lightly active. That means light-moderate pressure swipes too. Not so hard you’re leaving a visible layer which is why so many highschoolers shirts end up with white armpits, but not so softly that no material is literally coming off the cake. Reapplying more to already caked on pits is doing little. That means it’s time to shower and put on less next time.

      Try smelling your pits a couple hours after getting out of a good shower without applying any. It’s not the shower keeping most the stench off. It’s antiperspirant.

      And yes, we will smell when you didn’t put any on Connor. Yes, we know you don’t think you stink because you can’t smell yourself. Yes, other people will always know when you smell. Air molecules travel at 500 meters per second. Yes, you can’t wear the same thin hoodie 24/7 for more than a few days without it smelling. Yes, you should change your underwear daily. Yes, jeans can be worn for a while before needing a wash. Your thin ass comfortable nylon/polyester sweat pants only last a day with your stank. Wash your clothes. Wash your bedding.

      Start the routine now or set an alarm on your phone then actually follow through.

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        changing underwear daily was a fake problem invented by big underwear to sell more underwear and thanks to the patriarchy it has thrived

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        There are ways to manage odor without antiperspirants, however they are even more work than just applying deodorant. Meaning they’re functionally worthless when it comes to the trogs stinking up your average MTG tournament.

        The rest is spot on, though, wash your stuff regularly and not only will you smell less - your skin should clear up too.

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          Oh for sure. And ideally everybody could be doing them too. I’ve gone green or at least more eco-friendly wherever my budget can allow, but genetics are a fickle bitch.

          Some people are lucky with their genetics and don’t have stank sweat, eat healthy food, don’t have physically intensive jobs, so that homemade deodorant can work or a couple swipes of regular deodorant will last 24 hours (and they all say reapply as needed).

          Is your skin complexion already ‘bad’? Do you leave sweat stains on your bedding? Do you not have problems with breakouts from aluminum oxide? Do you eat bad and don’t have the no stank sweat genes (east asian)? Chances are you need to change up your antiperspirant or deodorant routine if you still stink.

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        To be fair, deodorant can last longer than 2-4 hours if you don’t stink. But most people doing a lot more than sitting are probably putting some wear on that 2 hour minimum.

        I’d imagine one could stink as soon as 20 minutes after application if they are sweating.

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        The issue is that antiperspirant is generally considered bad for one’s health, iirc, because it takes away the body’s ability to cool itself. Now of course, I’m not defending the sort of person that generally gives not one fuck about the most basic measure of hygiene, but…

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          There are alternatives. Bad body odor is generally produced by the bacteria on your body which thrives and emits odor in the moisture of your sweat, so legitimately taking a shower or applying hand sanitizer to your armpits will help. Though, I dunno if applying like, a rubbing alcohol mixture to your pits would be a wise decision to do frequently since that’s are pretty sensitive body part.

          They need like, armpit probiotics, or something. Some sort of stick full of bacteria that smells like lemons or strawberries or something, and then just outbreeds the other bacteria. Somebody should do that, sounds awesome.

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            It depends on the kind of bacteria, too. Just like with your gut, having a healthy skin biome is important. Not just for odours but also for various skin conditions and infections. Having a healthy skin biome can be the difference between an infection taking hold and giving a nasty sore or dying off due to too much competition (or maybe even predation) without you noticing anything.

            Part of it is cleaning the textiles that come in contact with your skin. Especially towels, though clothes and bedsheets are also important. Towels are important to clean properly because their whole job includes absorbing water. Always hang them so that they can dry properly. But even with that, the frequency of them getting wet means bacteria or fungus can start to thrive over time. You can smell it when this happens, it’s one of the nasty BO smells. Let those get established on your towels and they’ll transfer that life to your hands or body whenever you use them. I use bleach with my loads of towels/washcloths (which also means they’ll go longer before they do start to stink, too).

            I’ve come to believe that for those who often stink but do shower regularly that it might actually be their laundry practices causing the odours. Maybe there’s some piece of clothing they don’t wash regularly, like a coat or backpack, that is carrying the stink. Or maybe they aren’t washing their clothes effectively. A little bit of bleach once in a while can help with that, too. You don’t need much bleach to sanitize things and most clothing won’t fall apart or lose colour from one exposure. Air drying in direct sunlight could also help with that, since UV light can also sanitize. Also, don’t leave your clothes in the washer for a while before drying them. You’re sometimes better off not washing them at all than doing that.

            And another reason why towels are important to maintain properly is that soap can mess with your skin’s pH and make it more difficult for the healthy bacteria to survive. And using hand sanitizer is just blasting away the good and bad so that whatever is the most aggressive ends up taking its place (hence the higher potential for infections). If you blast all the competition away and then rub a towel full of bacteria on your skin right after, you shouldn’t be surprised to discover you stink a short while later.

            There’s pre- and pro-biotic soap and lotions that can help support and replace healthy skin biomes.

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          If I don’t wear antiperspiration my armpits start chaffing when I’m doing yard work or working out and have never overheated because the rest of my body is sweating, but maybe that’s just me or something.

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    It’s some gene that is mostly present in asians compared to whites, blacks, etc, my friend group has one individual that said he didn’t use it, and he’s black, everyone else will smell sour if stopped.

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    i mean it doesnt have to be anime conventions its usually any kind of gathering where said yopic. of convention has a gathering of introverts, in particular, ones that have 0 sense of self awareness.

    in terms of worst to less worse:

    Card game tournament(sweaty, generally lack of AC, small venue cause cheap) < Video Game tournament (similar but in a room full of electronics, usually helped out by that their venue is larger) < anime conventions

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      Well, it’s not only that, a lot of people are wearing costumes, that may or may not cause them to sweat far more than their normal day. A friend of mine wore a costume that involved a dress shirt and a coat, and Sept isn’t really cold in GA. He used menthol to cover for his sweat though, so it wasn’t too bad with him. My last costume (several years ago, I dunno where all the stuff is and can’t afford to remake atm) involved dress shirt, a vest, and a heavy coat (trying to emulate this character) and it was hot as hell, especially in lines outside in the sun.

      Even with baths and deodorant for some people in such situations it’s not really enough.

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        ofc the cosplays have an effect as well, but theyre typically the minority at a convention vs those playing TCGs or Video games, who are often the majority.

        the triple threat funny moment was San Jose 2016. Genesis 3 (Super smash bros tournament) took place at the same time and venue as Furcon, as well as a female volleyball tournament, all 3 generating sweat differently.

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    All natural deodorants and antiperspirants ARE scams. Regular deodorants are what pretty much everyone needs, regular antiperspirants don’t get rid of odor and stopping your sweat glands is probably fucking terrible for the human body.

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      I don’t think it’s mental gymnastics I think it’s a lack of actual gymnastics, so to speak. Body odor mostly comes from sweating so if you don’t sweat much you don’t need deodorant near as much. Someone with a healthy body weight living a largely sedentary lifestyle in a cooler climate might not need it at all and might smell perfectly fine with showers every other day or even every third day. However, that’s best case scenario and most people don’t check all those boxes. If you’re overweight, move around a lot, or just live in a warmer climate then that’s not going to work.

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    I’ve heard this point a lot but given the fact that until the industrial age, most people had open flames in their kitchen and bedrooms so if i had to guess I’d guess most people smelled of woodsmoke.

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      Spend a week roughing it, or in a cabin away from running water, and you’ll realize very quickly that smoke only sorta covers how bad humans can smell

      If anything it mixes eventually and makes a whole new nasty

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        If anything it mixes eventually and makes a whole new nasty

        Definitely.

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          I’ve had some exes tell me they love the way I smell after a couple days camping, but also that I can’t touch them because I am grimy.

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      A friend of mine in the military said when he was deployed and everyone starting stinking. He could be eating with a load of stinking guys. But he could smell if a woman came into the room.

      I guess we aren’t too far removed from the animals after all.

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    Well, with propere hygiene deodorant is not needed.

    Anime con attendees don’t care about proper hygiene and deodorant will only patch the issue, not fix it.

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      Thats just BS, i shower twice a day and still need deodorant otherwise i smell after some hours of work.

      And the people downvoting you are just intelligent people that know you speak BIG BS.

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        If you get to the point of oozing food smells out of your pits, you should prolly take a shower.

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            I know that the ones that don’t shower don’t use deodorant either (or it just stops working after some time…) but you can definitely smell when showering regularly.

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              Yes, I’m not arguing that. There’s a whole lot of emphasis on “propere hygiene”, it’s not just “showering a lot”.

              Sometimes excessive showering can cause your skin to lose it’s “natural” properties and bad bacteria might set up colonies, and then the overt showering will keep the natural skin balance from balancing itself.

              Also, diet affects one a lot.

              I don’t think everyone who sweats, smells. And some sweat smells straight up good. (Again, given proper hygiene, and this good sweat smell is usually connected to intimate activities.)

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      Believe it or not but some people sweat more than others. If you don’t want to shower every hour you need deodorant.

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    I think the anime fans are just traumatized by the overwhelming stench of axe body spray from the high school gym changing room, and are now scared of deodorant

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    OMG, I read the comments.

    I’m a guy who showers daily and tries to make sure I don’t smell (breath and body). Today, however, I am off from work and only washed my face. I’ve had that not so fresh feeling all day.

    I’m going to take shower right now.

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      I shower twice a day. In the morning to wake up and to get rid of the sleep sweat, in the evening so i don’t bring outside materials to my bed.

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    I assume the article is going for “we should be okay with body odor” which feels very granola. Not everyone needs deodorant, but many do if they don’t want to smell. Antiperspirant can be bad for your body, but deodorant should do the trick for most, by masking the sweat smell with their preferred scent.