Kicker for the US football team Chiefs based in Kansas City gave a commencement speech where he laid out a bunch of misogynistic and homophobic bullshit including the equivalent of “women belong in the kitchen” and is getting defended by conservatives as speaking to family values or whatever they call that bullshit now.
Sounds like you know about the guy on the right already, but for anyone else that might not know he was simply kneeling to bring attention to racism and was vilified by those same conservatives.
While race certainly played a part with the reaction to Kaepernick, that doesn’t mean this guy got a free pass for being white. Conservatives would have defended someone of any race who spouted misogynist word vomit.
I do love how they defend him in part by saying he killed a convicted sex offender as if he could have possibly known that and as if that were his (or anyone’s) job to do.
Is Colin Kaepernick black in America? I can see he wears his hair long now but in the UK you’d just say he looks vaguely mixed race. Very Caucasian features actually, kind of looks French-Algerian.
"The one-drop rule was a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry (“one drop” of “black blood”)[1][2] is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms). It is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3]
This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century.[4] It was associated with the principle of “invisible blackness”[5] that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation. Before the rule was outlawed by the Supreme Court in the Loving v. Virginia decision of 1967, it was used to prevent interracial marriages and in general to deny rights and equal opportunities and uphold white supremacy."
It does, but in reality it’s only if people know it. If your skin, name, nose, or actions shows your ancestry to be anything other than a certain in-group, then expect less rights. The in-group has changed over the years, but in the past it was only Anglo-Saxon, with Irish and Italians excluded. Some fringe groups are still racist against them, but in general anyone darker than a tan (though if of Latino heritage, tan still may be too far) and for some Jewish people (and no, I don’t mean those supporting Palestine or objecting to Israel, I mean real antisemites) are automatically seen as worse, and often times it’s subconscious.
I’ve seen racism against just my first name. I worked for a mom and pops computer store, was one of their techs. Someone with what I was told was a southern/redneck accent called in, and when told Chatoyer would be the name of the tech, they said “what the hell kinda name is Shatiyay, then hung up.”
I don’t have proof, but I’m 100% sure it has cost me job opportunities as well. Not necessarily from overt racism. Some people here just don’t want to deal with anything that makes them uncomfortable or they assume would make them uncomfortable. “What if we get his name wrong and he gets angry about it? John has similar qualifications, let’s just get John” etc. I know a boss who passed up women (despite having hired women before and after the one I’m talking about) because he was worried the other guys on the team might talk to frankly or curse too much for a woman.
You are not wrong, but I think you are missing the point a bit. What everyone in the thread is saying is that he got no pushback from conservatives. And instead they are defending him like they are in a cult lol. So the fact that normal people like us do attack him, like he deserves, is beyond the point of the conversation.
I’m assuming you are just confused here lol, maybe you are trolling to derail the conversation. That’s why people are downvoting you, sadly a lot of people who argue in bad faith sound like you.
“attacked”=people online expressing (strong) disagreement with his words. Poor thing, how will he ever recover with his millions of dollars and sheltered life! Get back to me when he’s run out of the NFL for his words.
Almost makes you associate racism and misogyny with the conservatism ideology…… almost. I’m sure a few more instances like this will solidify it for more people? Maybe?
Family values, common sense, freedom caucus, and any other thing that sounds like it should be positive but is run by conservatives is the opposite of whatever the name is.
Don’t forget the other crazy part. His own mother is a medical physicist that is the complete opposite of his definition of what he believes women should be. I was going to say those head injuries are true, then I realized he is only a kicker…
A kicker in American Football, who recently gave a speech at a Catholic College and said women will find more joy and fulfillment from being a stay at home mom than in a career.
I’m not as free as y’all Americans (from Europe): Context for the guy on the left?
Kicker for the US football team Chiefs based in Kansas City gave a commencement speech where he laid out a bunch of misogynistic and homophobic bullshit including the equivalent of “women belong in the kitchen” and is getting defended by conservatives as speaking to family values or whatever they call that bullshit now.
Sounds like you know about the guy on the right already, but for anyone else that might not know he was simply kneeling to bring attention to racism and was vilified by those same conservatives.
A white man was applauded while a black man was attacked.
Does that cover it?
While race certainly played a part with the reaction to Kaepernick, that doesn’t mean this guy got a free pass for being white. Conservatives would have defended someone of any race who spouted misogynist word vomit.
I mean, conservatives defend the murderer Kyle Rittenhouse.
They defend him because they like the idea of shooting liberal protesters in the street. “Murderer” is not a mark of shame to them.
I do love how they defend him in part by saying he killed a convicted sex offender as if he could have possibly known that and as if that were his (or anyone’s) job to do.
That’s because for Conservatives you’re allowed to take lives to protect property. You are not allowed to damage property to protect lives.
Really shows where their values are.
Good point.
Is Colin Kaepernick black in America? I can see he wears his hair long now but in the UK you’d just say he looks vaguely mixed race. Very Caucasian features actually, kind of looks French-Algerian.
Being light skinned doesn’t make him less “black”
What else would make him less black?
You don’t understand:
A white woman can have a black baby.
A black woman cannot have a white baby.
This is very normal and makes perfect sense. Stop looking at it closely.
There’s the “One Drop rule.” (Wikipedia)
"The one-drop rule was a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry (“one drop” of “black blood”)[1][2] is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms). It is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3]
This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century.[4] It was associated with the principle of “invisible blackness”[5] that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation. Before the rule was outlawed by the Supreme Court in the Loving v. Virginia decision of 1967, it was used to prevent interracial marriages and in general to deny rights and equal opportunities and uphold white supremacy."
I think that means technically everyone is Black.
It does, but in reality it’s only if people know it. If your skin, name, nose, or actions shows your ancestry to be anything other than a certain in-group, then expect less rights. The in-group has changed over the years, but in the past it was only Anglo-Saxon, with Irish and Italians excluded. Some fringe groups are still racist against them, but in general anyone darker than a tan (though if of Latino heritage, tan still may be too far) and for some Jewish people (and no, I don’t mean those supporting Palestine or objecting to Israel, I mean real antisemites) are automatically seen as worse, and often times it’s subconscious.
I’ve seen racism against just my first name. I worked for a mom and pops computer store, was one of their techs. Someone with what I was told was a southern/redneck accent called in, and when told Chatoyer would be the name of the tech, they said “what the hell kinda name is Shatiyay, then hung up.”
I don’t have proof, but I’m 100% sure it has cost me job opportunities as well. Not necessarily from overt racism. Some people here just don’t want to deal with anything that makes them uncomfortable or they assume would make them uncomfortable. “What if we get his name wrong and he gets angry about it? John has similar qualifications, let’s just get John” etc. I know a boss who passed up women (despite having hired women before and after the one I’m talking about) because he was worried the other guys on the team might talk to frankly or curse too much for a woman.
That’s hilarious, I will never understand America.
The thing is it’s not about being “black”, it’s about not being white.
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You are not wrong, but I think you are missing the point a bit. What everyone in the thread is saying is that he got no pushback from conservatives. And instead they are defending him like they are in a cult lol. So the fact that normal people like us do attack him, like he deserves, is beyond the point of the conversation.
I’m assuming you are just confused here lol, maybe you are trolling to derail the conversation. That’s why people are downvoting you, sadly a lot of people who argue in bad faith sound like you.
“attacked”=people online expressing (strong) disagreement with his words. Poor thing, how will he ever recover with his millions of dollars and sheltered life! Get back to me when he’s run out of the NFL for his words.
Almost makes you associate racism and misogyny with the conservatism ideology…… almost. I’m sure a few more instances like this will solidify it for more people? Maybe?
They can’t say Christian values anymore, so they say family values. Anytime you hear family values, they mean Christian values.
Family values, common sense, freedom caucus, and any other thing that sounds like it should be positive but is run by conservatives is the opposite of whatever the name is.
Don’t forget the other crazy part. His own mother is a medical physicist that is the complete opposite of his definition of what he believes women should be. I was going to say those head injuries are true, then I realized he is only a kicker…
A kicker in American Football, who recently gave a speech at a Catholic College and said women will find more joy and fulfillment from being a stay at home mom than in a career.
He also said a bunch of other terrible stuff about women in the speech too, but yeah, that is the part that made the headlines.
Who only got where he was because of his mother’s physics career.
Is it https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/5/16/24158564/harrison-butker-benedictine-college-speech
Lol waaaay more free then mate
I was a bit cheeky there ;)
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