• Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    That’s fucked up and unconstitutional (not that it matters to Trumo and co) but I will say it FREE PALESTINE!!! and for good measure FUCK ISRAEL FUCKING NAZIS.

    Now I am going go touch some grass, I am done with these fucking racist fascist.

    • Farhad@freefree.psOP
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      13 days ago

      @Fredselfish

      We are really turning into 1920s red scare horror in the US.

      Both liberal and fascists are united to crush the left. This time by hiding under antisemitism.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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        13 days ago

        Both liberal and fascists are united to crush the left. This time by hiding under antisemitism.

        What? Where are the republicans who are creating this, voting for this, and not stopping trump in any fashion? This seems like a weird thing to say. Maybe you made a typo?

          • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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            13 days ago

            I’ve never heard of a republican being called a liberal though. I’ve seen memes with “libtards”, “libtears,” etc. That to me says liberals aren’t republicans.

            • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              13 days ago

              I don’t know how you’ve been on Lemmy for two years and are hearing this for the first time. Previously:

              Liberalism has a definition, which Marxists (and still many liberal Europeans) have never forgotten, though thanks to red scare purges and two cold wars, others have. Now, in Orwellian fashion, “liberalism” and “socialism” are floating signifiers, so we have liberals like Sanders calling themselves socialists, despite never calling for abolishing private ownership of the means of production.

              Wikipedia: socialism: Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

              Wikipedia: liberalism: Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

              “Private property,” a.k.a. “the means of production.”

              What people in the US usually call “conservative” and what they call “liberal” are both liberal. Fascists in the Republican party aside, both it and the Democratic party are liberal parties. And liberalism and fascism have more in common than most people realize.

              • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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                13 days ago

                You might want to look at other comments in this thread:

                @pelespirit blue MAGA attacking anti genocide and pro Palestinians, just like thy did about Ralf Nader or Jill Stein for the Fuck up of their policies.

                They have voted for every anti Palestinian and pro genocide legislation and program GOP put ahead of them.

                and

                @pelespirit Demonrats and rethuglicans must all be vanquished. Yeah Jill Stein’s pretty lame but I find I agree with you and other supporters on 90% of issues so it’s chill

                • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  3·
                  13 days ago

                  What about those comments? The Palestinian genocide has been bipartisan, aided and abetted by both Biden and Trump. And on the campaign trail, Harris created no daylight between herself and Biden on the issue.

      • blazeknave@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        I’m trying to understand your perspective from your comments. Do you not believe antisemitism is real? Or increasing?

        I believe they are. I also believe genocide in Gaza is bad. I’m a liberal. Just trying to understand why you’re a leftist and I’m supposedly not.

        • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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          12 days ago

          Antisemitism =/= antizionism.

          Trying to conflate these 2 positions is a shameless strategy by zionists to justify their shameless atrocities. Not to mention that palestinians are literally semites, the actually indigenous people of the region.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          13 days ago

          Liberalism is the ideological superstructure of Capitalism, Leftists oppose Capitalism and support Socialism. Everyone believes anti-semitism is real, but since the Liberal status quo needs Israel as a US millitary base in the Middle East, liberals and fascists are joining hands to throw those supporting Palestinian Liberation under the bus.

          Liberalism and fascism are both the ideological superstructures of capitalism, just under different circumstances, liberalism in plenty and fascism in crisis. Both are build upon Capitalism as the base, and as such are more similar than they are different, and the differences are explained by the sharpened contradictions in Capitalism leading to more violent repression. In other words, fascism is the ugly face under the mask of liberalism, and Capital takes off the mask and puts it back on depending on its needs.

        • Farhad@freefree.psOP
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          13 days ago

          @blazeknave omg another asshole coming with some BS to waste time.

          I have neither time or interest to repeat what I have said a million time to another idiot who ask a stupid question on a post completely unrelated to the question.

          • blazeknave@lemmy.world
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            12 days ago

            Maybe if you weren’t such a fucking prick, you wouldn’t push away prospective comrades. Big fucking tent you got there boss. FYI those weren’t 5 to 12 million socialists this weekend. And the only reason I stopped identifying as a socialist, then a dem soc, then leftist, is bc of your fucking purity test bullshit. Go ahead and delete this and silence my voice and perspective like every fucking open minded leftist on this site. You’re pathetic. I’ve been in the movement for almost 30 years, have literally bled for this democracy, had guns ground into my temple, close range rubber bullet wounds, burns from tear gas canisters. Fuck. You. Your exclusionary crap is gross and you’re not going to have a seat at the table on the other side of all this. Useful idiots buying into the dichotomy of the oligarchs, pointing fingers at the other 99% while we all get rolled on. This country’s culture reflects its government. You’re not outside of it. You just bunch everyone else on the opposing side of you and recreate the same polarized dichotomy. You will never internalize a word of this bc you’re closed minded arrogant pricks who deserve the disdain of actual working class people. Kinda like the DNC and their old base… You don’t actually care about people with empathy and compassion. Just the next iteration of Bernie Bros. And fuck off, I have always voted for him and left candidates up and down the ballot except general presidential elections, for literally decades. I helped primary Pelosi bc I’m apparently too left for fucking San Francisco. But I’m “another idiot with a stupid question.” I am so sick of you fake fucks. Go get angry about it instead of reflecting like a little baby living in mommy’s basement. You’re not a fucking hero. You live in an echo chamber. As bad as the military pointing guns at the very neighbors they’re supposed to protect in spite of their differences.