• Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
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    5 months ago

    There is more to this than guns. This is about losing constitutional rights over a minor conviction.

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      5 months ago

      Every and all kinds of convictions will never negate or nulify consituional rights. A criminal still keeps 100% of consituional rights. No law restricts a constituional right.

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        5 months ago

        That isn’t true. A felon can’t vote in many jurisdictions. They can’t own a gun. They can’t run for certain offices. There are many things a felon can’t do.

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          5 months ago

          And I reject all of that. I say a felon can still vote, hold office, and own guns. When I find out a convict has firearms or guns, I do not report them because I protect their eternal right to own guns, unrestricted, regardless of a record.

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        5 months ago

        Criminals do not keep all their constitutional rights, when they are incarcerated they are not free to move about or posses many things. Felons on probation are not allowed to associate with other felons.

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          5 months ago

          And after they have been released from incarceration, I treat them as still posessing every and all constituional rights.

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            5 months ago

            How you treat them doesn’t change that they’ve lost rights expressly enumerated in the constitution.

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              5 months ago

              I will never report any person I know if they do something that is within the consitution but has a criminal conviction, there is no crime. If a convict has a gun, I ignore the law and treat them as being within their rights if the gun is currently being used in a criminal matter.