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      I’m very opposed to Israels current actions. I don’t think Israel should have been created. I think they are guilty of genocide and apartheid. None of that makes is OK to talk of dismantling Israel. The fact that they have committed hateful crimes against humanity does not justify visiting similar crimes against them. You cannot just dispossess a whole people of their land. It’s a crime when Israel does it and it would be a crime to do it to them, too

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        makes is OK to talk of dismantling Israel.

        It is perfectly okay - and necessary - to talk about dismantling Israel. It is even more okay to actually do it.

        You cannot just dispossess a whole people of their land.

        You mean… like was done by Israel since 1948? I’m going to guess you also think the Soviet Union tossing Nazi Germany out of western Russia was some “great injustice?”

        It’s amazing how easily you liberals turn pro-colonialist at the drop of a hat. It’s almost like you’re no less right-wing than your (so-called) “conservative” cousins - you just need a different flavor of propaganda before you start shilling for the status quo.

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          FFS I’m not a liberal. At least not in the sense that Americans use the word. I’m anti crimes against humanity.

          I don’t know why you bother talking to anyone on social media if you’re just going to to make up what you imagine they’re saying.

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            I’m not a liberal

            You sure about that? Pearl-clutching about a genocidal white supremacist state’s crimes while unwilling to entertain the idea of actually doing anything real about it sounds like garden-variety liberal SOP to me.

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                  Oh fuck off you facetious fuck. You fucking lob insults at me in post after post and now you want me to spend time explaining myself to you? Go fuck yourself

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                    Lol!

                    I wish I could take credit for turning the term liberal into an insult - but I’m afraid liberals did most of that on their own.

                    Feel free to respond once your reactionary fit ebbs to a manageable level.

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      Most people living there (with or without Israeli passport) do not want to be complicit in the project you are describing, so clearly no. What you are describing is the agenda of a minority.

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        so clearly no.

        Which part of…

        Israel is a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist project regardless of what government it has.

        …didn’t you comprehend the first time around?

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          You dehumanize people for existing in a social construct they have not created and most of them have not chosen and some of them have no option of leaving. You write as if you want to protect people from hatred or atrocities, yet your wording is nothing but fuelling more hatred and atrocities.

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            You dehumanize people for existing in a social construct they have not created

            And again - which part of…

            Israel is a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist project regardless of what government it has.

            …are you still having a hard time comprehending?

            It does not matter what this or that individual Israeli citizen’s personal feels are on the matter - it does not change the fact that Israel is a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist project regardless of what government it has.

            There’s nothing complicated about this.