• ebikefolder@feddit.de
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    9 months ago

    If they are not interested, why should we be? Sever all ties… works fairly well with Russia, so why not the USA? Let them have their splendid isolation.

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      9 months ago

      Because so far, American money and military muscle is needed to stop Russia in Ukraine and deter it from further adventures in Europe.

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          9 months ago

          As long as we are not willing provide the money and muscle ourselves, I see no other alternative to trust them.

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            9 months ago

            Europe needs to build up defenses. If trump gets back in power there is a good chance he will drop out of NATO. He wants closer ties with Russia, and was previously impeached over actions against Ukraine.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if he switched sides and aligned with Russia. It can get worse than just losing support when it comes to trump.

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      9 months ago

      why should we be? Sever all ties… works fairly well with Russia

      You do realize that rejecting both Russia and America would in fact make the EU more isolated than either Russia or America in this scenario?

      The only reason there is enough stability for the EU to remain in solvency is because NATO basically covers its entire defense budget. Even with this shield against hard power the EU has still fallen prey to soft power attacks, being picked apart from the inside.

      Imagine what would happen to the EU if the individual member states actually had to cover all their own military expenses, had to negotiate for fuel From neither Russia or the US. The austerity measures alone would break the EU apart.

      No democratic institutions are fairing well. If there isn’t some effort to all work together, everything going to unravel at the seams.