Democrats will fight the hardest they have ever fought to avoid giving up their position as the polite, norms-respecting Republicans.
This community got hijacked by liberals 😔
anarchists will claim to not be liberals but get so upset and mass-downvote us when we critique liberal parties kekw
Bit of a strawman there. I’m an anarchist and I’ll happily upvote any dunks on the shitlibs.
No offense to you or some of the other better anarchists I’ve seen, but it’s not really a strawman when a sizable portion of people who call themselves anarchists spend all their time punching left and supporting dems or calling for the abolition of literacy and bedtimes.
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I literally have a Christian anarchist tattoo on my leg that I drew over a decade ago, vote in every election, for democrats, but detest the shit out of the neoliberalism bullshit they pass off as progressive, and just to spite you I up voted you.
Mind you I also believe that when Christ returns He will resurrect us all and give us downtrodden the justice no government on earth has ever even tried to. Anyone who has made a decision in a system that resulted in harm to masses of humans will be exposed and given consequences, i think it’ll be pretty great to see Obama, Bush, Trump, Biden and every single Senator and Representative from all parties finally face the music, but like, I gotta try and not make things worse for anyone in the meantime, and to me that means voting for assholes I will enjoy judging in His kingdom.
Mind you I also believe that when Christ returns He will resurrect us all and give us downtrodden the justice no government on earth has ever even tried to.
Would sure be sooner than the successful anarchist revolution.
Just saw which instance this was. Apologies, I’ll take my anarchist self elsewhere.
Hexbear’s a good and active left unity instance
So I’m guessing this instance is infested with MAGAts? Good to know; I’ll grab my bug spray.
Lemmygrad is a communist instance. Primarily marxist-leninist.
Then what the hell is up with these anti-liberal comments?
Communists are anti-liberal.
Liberalism as a political philosophy is the underpinning of capitalism.
We can’t destroy capitalism without doing away with it’s political philosophy.
As an aside, from this perspective both American liberals and conservatives are liberals - they both spring from the philosophy of liberalism.
I understand that it’s confusing to hear criticism of the Democrats from the left - it’s relatively uncommon in the U$.
No I think you misunderstood. I agree with your idealogy. But to talk shit about liberals, when we are liberals who actually lean left (unlike Democrats who are moderates in disguise), well that’s just plain dumb. It makes you sound like a Trumpanzee.
I’m a liberal, and I’m also a proud socialist. And so are you.
Edit: Y’all are missing the point. There’s no reason for all this infighting. Communist, Socialist, Liberal, or whatever; we need to stop arguing over the differences and band together to stop the rise of Fascism. Some of these replies make me worried that a lot of you will vote for 3rd parties in the next election and effectively hand the votes over to Trump. Please don’t do that.
No, we’re not liberals, we’re communists. We talk shit about and dunk on liberals because we fundamentally disagree and take issue with the entire ideology. We take issue with being called liberals, because we’re not.
Liberals have nothing to do with the left.
You can’t be a liberal and a socialist at the same time, unless you’re talking about philistine and opportunist social democracy.
Non-digetic screams just summarized this whole thing perfectly.
I’m not a liberal, I’m a marxist.
A Marxist is a left liberal, and I’m tired of you pretending you’re not.
This is pure gold lmao
Yea i legit laughed out loud.
We’re Marxists. We’re against liberalism. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism as another user already told you.
You’ve been taught a false binary. This is intentional to limit your ability to think critically about capitalism. All of us were. There is no binary.
There is liberalism (subset of which include conservatism, US Republicans), Marxism, and technically you could have non-liberal reactionaries like say sincere Monarchists who prefer a return to feudalism or some other older system and reject the enlightenment. However, largely speaking there are two groups as the amount of reactionaries who genuinely reject liberalism and assert a desire to return to and an embrace of a pre-liberal philosophy is shockingly small and they have no real traction anywhere among anyone, especially among Republican voters seething and crying about liberalism as to a one those people like most parts of liberalism (many of them espousing a return to “classical liberalism” or "liberalism before all these uppity women and minorities got rights and did things I didn’t like) and embrace for example the liberal idea of free enterprise, free markets, etc.
We reject the notion that we are at the end of history, that liberalism represents some final, perfect stage of humanity as opposed to previous societal stages such as the feudal, the monarchistic, the slave-society, the tribal, hunter-gatherer primativism, etc. As Marxists we say of liberalism what many liberals said of feudalism, namely that it was a historical stage, that it may have in certain ways represented advancements over previous ways of organizing society, but that it never-the-less is inferior to our proposed successor.
Just as liberalism did not represent some sort of wacko total year-zero rejection of the societies and systems that came before it but rather proposed a radical furthering of certain rights and ideas, so too Marxism while rejecting liberalism as out-modded, out-dated, and at this point backwards and bad, does not wholly reject and want to turn all of society upside down. We are a progressive force. We are for progress. We are for emancipation. But we are against capitalism. We are against privately held means of production. We are for the people, the workers being the rulers, the dictatorship over the current owning class to impose our will, our ends, our goals, our goods over their greed. With force. To create a new society, to gradually erode away the old as liberalism eroded away previous societies before it. This is our project, this is our calling. So yes we reject liberalism.
We embrace a scientific approach, we reject many things liberals take as immutable, as unchallengable, as laws unable or unwise to be challenged by humans.
No I think you misunderstood. I agree with your idealogy. But to talk shit about liberals, when we are liberals who actually lean left (unlike Democrats who are moderates in disguise), well that’s just plain dumb. It makes you sound like a Trumpanzee.
I do not consider liberals “part of the left”. The left starts at anti-capitalism.
I’m a liberal, and I’m also a proud socialist. And so are you.
That’s an insult here. I am not a liberal (who, by definition support capitalism and private property). I am a Marxist-leninist.
I do not understand how you can come to this conclusion.
I do not consider liberals “part of the left”. The left starts at anti-capitalism.
Agreed. And I’m an Anarchist for the record.
LMAO at all the liberals from lemmy.world already upset at this meme in the comment section, just an hour after it was posted
Cope and seethe
the reddit exodus and its consequences
You know what’s not cool, Jordan? Crying everytime someone says Marxist
That meme ain’t right
Yeah, we’re left
drops the mic
Y’all clearly don’t know about KOH
There’s a blue MAGA now?!
There’s a blue MAGA now?!
The Democrats are blue maga. Amerikkka was never great.
I’m so confused. Democrats aren’t trying to “make America great again” because many of them agree with you that we haven’t finished making America better to start with.
Is this some form of enlightened centrist, both sides same bullshit? Or is there more to this?
I’m so confused. Democrats aren’t trying to “make America great again” because many of them agree with you that we haven’t finished making America better to start with.
“Build back better” implies that there is a good foundation. Amerikkka is a slave empire, built on blood and oppression. The Dems are materially not working to make anything better.
Is this some form of enlightened centrist, both sides same bullshit? Or is there more to this?
This is communist critique of Democrats. They are right-wing, along with the republicans. Just a slightly different flavor.
“Communism is the real movement which abolishes the present state of things”
We don’t want to “make amerika great” we want to abolish and decolonize it.
insert always been meme
No lol