• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Vote for the administration, not the man.

    This is not that difficult. Both of these geezers have been president before. We know what teams they put together, what their agendas are, and the consequences of their administration.

    There is only one big fucking faux pas on the Biden administration, and that is their continuing support for Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza. That is no good, but what is Trump’s stance on Gaza? His administration wants to accelerate and intensify support of the genocide.

    Both candidates suck as individuals, but only one of the administrations has been competent and generally good for all citizens.

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        You know, because nuclear bombs can be contained and certainly don’t carry any irradiated winds that would affect civilian populations only a fence away.

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        This makes perfect sense,tankies are just zionists riling up the trump base so they can nuke Gaza.

        Makes 1000x more sense than what the tankies say they want.

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          Stop making up paranoid delusional conspiracy to ease your mind of the unfortunate truth that people just don’t like him.

          People are emotional idiots. Apparently including all of us.

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      You are right, the Democratic administration is fucking terrible. But its still better than the republicans. Can’t wait to vote third party on the next election cycle when people tell me i can vote how i wish.

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        You can always vote how you wish. Voting third party in the presidential election is always just a vanity vote. Nothing about the next election will change this. If you want to change it, you’re going to have to go out and work from the ground up.

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        I agree with you all the way up to voting 3rd party.

        It has never worked out how everyone thinks it will. Why would this time be different?

        We have first past the post here. Meaning first across the finish line. And 2 candidates are neck and neck a few steps from it. You can vote for one of them to pull into the lead a bit OR you can vote for a person still standing at the starting line that has no hope to ever win.

        It’s wild to me that people don’t see that. It’s about keeping Trump from winning and ACCELERATING THE GAZA GENOCIDE!!! There just simply isn’t the momentum to elect a 3rd party right now this cycle so close to the end. You have to start that momentum and push WAYYY sooner and be competitive and stay close to the lead or it is over for you.

        Voting 3rd party now is like sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality.

        I completely understand that neither main candidate is perfect.

        If Trump wins, but your vote could have helped Biden win, how will your conscience handle that? Knowing you could have at least stopped Trump, but didn’t? Is feeling good about your vote going to outweigh the reality if Trump wins?

        It’s like refusing to put out a fire with dirty water so you let the whole building burn down. Let’s use the dirty water and stop the fire and THEN clean up the muddy mess from it.

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          I think we both agree that first past the post is a blight. And the only option to stop that would be either voting third party, or a violent Revolution that sees both parties on the end of a rope. The democrats have killed changing voting to ranked choice at local levels, even after being successfully voted for, because just like republicans they know that not allowing a choice is the only thing giving them power. The second that there is risk free voting for platforms you actually care about, they are fucking done.

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      Do you guys really not remember anything from the last 3.5 years? I get not liking Trumps admin, but Bidens admin has objectively been so poorly run it makes me wonder if they are fucking everything up intentionally. Biden has to be the worst admin in my lifetime even beating out the George W Bush debacle that got us into two endless wars.

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        Even a quick glance at your comment history makes my brain hurt. That amount of delusion amd willful ignorance literally has you living in an alternate reality.

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        You reckon poorly run but you don’t give any examples.

        What has his administration done worse than the tangerine terrors?

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          Good question! Off the top of my head; no border control, terrible afghanistan withdrawl (but props he went through with it), pushing us closer to WW3 (see recent new of China doing joint exercises in Belarus), continued reckless spending done by trump, continued funding of Ukraine enabling deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, funding bombs dropped on Gaza, and more!

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            Border control? Now you know how the native Indians felt. I have no idea why so many Central American countries are unstable, which forces people to migrate to somewhere they perceived as safer for their families.

            Afghanistan was baby Bush’s mess. Do we blame Nixon for pulling out of Vietnam?

            Closer to WW3? Really, I must have missed that memo because I don’t see that happening.

            Cut funding to Ukraine. Hmmmm… give in to bully Putin you mean. And you bring up China: How would China act on the global stage if they saw the US tucked tail to run in Ukraine? Embolden for sure.

            As for Gaza, annoying orange would have bent over backwards to appease AIPAC and glassed Gaza.

            But let’s ask what the fake tanned arsewiped did for two whole years that he had full control of the house, senate and WH? Tax cut for himself? What else…?

            And who can forget the one million dead from covid, because he made it political. No other country in the world suffered the impact the US had. Guess injecting bleach or looking directly at an eclipse without protective glasses on isn’t clever.

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              I love when you guys defend indefensible policies. I can give you a deep dive on any one of these things, but you will just say some random nonsense that you think sounds good.

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                Indefensible? Like wanting a pedophile, rapist, convicted felon as party leader? What is wrong with you? That’s some serious malfunction if you look at him and say “yup, he’s dur one fur mee”

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                  I dont want trump as leader, but he is not what you claim. A funny and slightly true quote is a prayer that says “Lord give me the Trump that the left thinks exists.” The issue is that you just repeat the same propaganda and it just boring. You dont have anything interesting to say that is why you guys are called NPCs.