• octopus_ink@lemmy.mlOP
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    4 months ago

    Either stay in your country or go through the proper channels. Or work as a field laborer for pennies on the dollar…sounds like there are a couple choices here, no one is forcing people to cross illegally.

    In your rush to dunk on folks who have made a difficult decision at a low point in their likely quite difficult lives, you failed to actually read what you replied to. But I’m guessing your response is now “they are criminals so they have no rights, and so who cares about their humanity.”

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            4 months ago

            We treat our own people like slaves, what makes them so special?

            You are super close to seeing the actual point.

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              That it’s ok to let prisoners work to pay for their own housing and food instead of the taxpayers?

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                Profits are being made off of prison labor! That can only mean the amount they produce is greater than what they receive from the state. So they’re not just working for food and housing - they’re working to make someone else richer.

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                  I’m not saying this is not true but profit is made off all labor. Show me some good sources when you get time, I am genuinely interested

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                    If you want an example, the hellhole prison nicknamed “Angola” (because it’s full of black people haha so funny) is a good case study for why this is slavery and not just prisoners paying their way through prison.

                    They’re forced to do work or get solitary confinement, make $0.02/hr under inhumane conditions, punish people who get heat stroke, don’t provide shade or fans or clean water (literally, they have to drink dirty water if they don’t use their teeny wages to buy water) or anything, in temperatures that exceed 113°F in Louisiana. They’re forced to water plants with paper cups, pick rotten fruit by hand, weeding by hand, it’s all totally pointless shit an the cruelty is the point.

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                That maybe we shouldn’t be treating anyone like that and that if we are going to have people work, yes even prisoners, should be paid a fair rate instead of pennies on the dollar.

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                  I’m gonna pass on that and I’ve been locked up working those jobs. What are we treating them like? They have a choice…If you don’t want to, they don’t make you but believe me…you want those jobs…The fair rate is calculated after working in the cost of your housing, a victims compensation fund, your food and medical care… plus you get a reduction on your sentence and you aren’t institutionalized as bad…you never thought about that did you Toby? Now get to picking that cotton boy!

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                    Yes, you just seem like such a good person.

                    I’m gonna stick with we should treat all people as people, not property.

                    Especially because in America there is a damn good chance they have done nothing wrong.