If an organization runs a survey in 2024 on whether it should get into AI, then they’ve already bodged an LLM into the system and they’re seeing if they can get away with it. Proton Mail is a priva…
we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self
Why is that an issue? I deploy local LLMs for work and none of the content they use or generate goes outside the encrypted active domain, so no security issues or privacy issues. The question is how contained the LLM is, that’s all.
it’s an article about a poorly-designed feature that doesn’t accomplish any of its marketed goals and was hoisted upon Proton’s users in spite of their objections
can’t tell if this is because bond movies or marvel movies or fatf movies or heist movies or … but good god some people just have no fucking idea whatsoever
the model execution environment can quickly solve FHE in an afternoon, for a treat. after that it has to get back to piano practice tho!
god, the pure fucking dark pattern of the option that leaks plaintext being the default, with a description that’s only its upsides, while the local option sounds quite a bit shit in comparison
also, I keep meaning to ask: does this “free for 14 days” trial auto-renew? cause that’s a real shitty dark pattern too if interacting with the feature starts your subscription. in fact, isn’t that illegal in some jurisdictions?
The trouble is that Proton has announced and implemented Scribe in a manner that sends up huge red flags for their privacy-focused techie base.
Proton Mail’s privacy-focused users are worried about the Scribe announcement because they’ve never seen Proton be so vague and nonspecific about security and threat models.
Up to now, Proton has been serious about privacy
It’s not about AI. It’s about privacy and communication.
fucking incredible, you managed to cherry pick some of the few sentences in the article that don’t use the words “AI” or “LLM”! good for you, you exhausting motherfucker
Why is that an issue? I deploy local LLMs for work and none of the content they use or generate goes outside the encrypted active domain, so no security issues or privacy issues. The question is how contained the LLM is, that’s all.
did you read the parts of the article that describe why the LLM is an issue?
Shouldn’t the headline be about unencrypted text prompts, rather than AI?
nope
I read the article. What is the problem?
it’s an article about a poorly-designed feature that doesn’t accomplish any of its marketed goals and was hoisted upon Proton’s users in spite of their objections
this is an article about AI
“unencrypted text prompts”
can’t tell if this is because bond movies or marvel movies or fatf movies or heist movies or … but good god some people just have no fucking idea whatsoever
the model execution environment can quickly solve FHE in an afternoon, for a treat. after that it has to get back to piano practice tho!
their self reported system requirements to run the local LLM don’t sound like the average office dell spec (sorry for using screenshots)
and the “opt in” flow appears to make no effort to explain the critical privacy difference between local and server llms
https://proton.me/support/proton-scribe-writing-assistant#system-requirements
god, the pure fucking dark pattern of the option that leaks plaintext being the default, with a description that’s only its upsides, while the local option sounds quite a bit shit in comparison
also, I keep meaning to ask: does this “free for 14 days” trial auto-renew? cause that’s a real shitty dark pattern too if interacting with the feature starts your subscription. in fact, isn’t that illegal in some jurisdictions?
It’s not about AI. It’s about privacy and communication.
oh. perhaps you could explain this to the authors of the article?
brb making popcorn
fucking incredible, you managed to cherry pick some of the few sentences in the article that don’t use the words “AI” or “LLM”! good for you, you exhausting motherfucker
they really came out of the woodwork today, huh