cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17821531
I usually avoid politics on this community but thought this article kinda fit
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17821531
I usually avoid politics on this community but thought this article kinda fit
Are you attempting to liken the condemnation of conservatives with the historical atrocities inflicted upon the black, Jewish, or transgender communities? All three of which groups are persecuted by conservatives?
Identifying people as the other does lead to all kinds of problems. However, discussing the behavior patterns of adherents of a vile and malicious belief system is just observation. This is a belief system that destroys us all and should not be tolerated. People who support the modern Republican party in the US or the Nazi ideology anywhere don’t get to keep their people card until after they give up their toxic ideas.
We quarantine people with an illness to prevent them from harming the whole. We should be doing the same thing conservatives and Nazis. If they get better, wonderful! If they die out, not a significant loss to humanity.
But who will choose which ideas are good and which are bad? Every person makes that choice in how they live their lives. If one Nazi sits down at a table of nine people who do not immediately leave, then you have ten Nazis. The same can be said of American conservatives and the Israeli Defense Force and their supporters.
We should not seek to understand abhorrent ideologies outside the context of history while studying their origins as a means to prevent them from rising again, and we certainly shouldn’t look upon their advocates in modern times as anything other than infected and dangerous people who need to be isolated and removed.
Look, I’m arguing for a reasonable perspective that treats people as individuals rather than labeling them as a group. You’re answering me with hyperbole.
I think you would have gotten along well with senator Joe McCarthy.
Not hyperbole. The mindset is the same.
The “quarantine them” bit is a bit extreme there, bud. That’s some straight up fascist shit, I don’t care what kind side you’re on.
Feel free to criticize and throw milkshakes and other things that might get my banned here for saying, but that’s actually fucked. Just because conservatives are willing to do it doesn’t mean leftists should be willing. In the end they’re still living breathing humans, even if I wished many of them weren’t, and that’s the main thing that separates leftists from conservatives, a belief in inherent humanity.
And we absolutely should seek understanding. Not sympathizing, mind you, but definitely an understanding. GI Joe was right when they said “Knowing is half the battle.”
Holy yikes!!! You’re advocating taking about half of all voters in the US and no longer considering them as human? Not everyone who gets caught up in these ideologies understands that they are toxic. Ignorance, stupidity, brainwashing, etc. are very real. It is likely the vast majority of Republicans who don’t understand that they’re doing something that hurts people (often including themselves).
Theoretically, could there be some form of ‘quarantining’ that I would support? Maybe. But dehumanizing them is most certainly wrong. A lot of these people are just confused, and they do have good qualities as well as bad, and are very much people. Please take a closer look at what you’re saying.