This is the first I’ve heard of it, but here’s one of his infamous quotes:

"There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it’s a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews.

I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”

His other quotes tend to be condemnation about specifically Israeli zionism and barbaric murder, but i don’t have context as to whether he’s referring to palestine or not. Some people might have more sympathy for these statements these days, but a lot of his other quotes have to do with Jews controlling money and media, less defensible prejudice.

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    I agree.

    I think you’re preaching to the choir here though, nobody has used either term incorrectly in these threads, as far as I’ve seen.

    Disambiguation might be more useful somewhere that the terms are being conflated.

    Defining terms is unrelated and unnecessaryto the topic here.

    Not inaccurate, perhaps unwarranted.

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      Well - the discussion originated from my comment that the OP quoted something anti-semitic in a post whose title is about racism. I just thought it’s maybe not the most fitting example. But yeah, it doesn’t matter too much.

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        The post is about anti-Semitism, a specific form of cultural and ethnic racism against Jews and Israelis demonstrated in multiple quotes by Roald Dahl.

        Dahl attributes undesirable characteristics to several linked groups(Jews, Israelis, Zionists) and rationalizes the specifically ethnic Jewish genocide by Hitler.

        There are further quotes that you may be missing. Pretty much all of his racism and anti-Semitism is gathered here now, however you care to define each term.

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          I was not arguing the point that the author had racist opinions / convictions. I was saying I expected there to certainly be a quote that was more fitting to the post title. Especially since as you confirm there are plenty of quotes. Anyways, I came to the post to inform myself - I have heard the name, but the works of this author are not among those books I have read.

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            The referenced OP quote Dahl makes rationalizing the Holocaust, a specifically ethnic genocide, doesn’t strike you as racist?

            How are you defining racism if not as prejudice against a specific race?

            Also

            “But yeah, it doesn’t matter too much.”

            You’ve mentioned this a couple times, but each sentiment is contradicted by a dozen of your own comments belying your ardent passion for splitting the hairs of bigotry from racism for an as of yet unclear reason.

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              The referenced OP quote Dahl makes rationalizing the Holocaust, a specifically ethnic genocide, doesn’t strike you as racist?

              That context is not part of the quote though. As a matter of fact, unless you started mentioning it, and specifically with a jewish perspective on this author in this very thread, I wasn’t aware that he was also rationalizing the holocaust.

              How are you defining racism if not as prejudice against a specific race?

              I am bewildered how you and some others keep misquoting me this badly. I thought we had already agreed on the bottom line? I’ll sign out of this discussion here, there was nothing to be gained beyond a fruitful exchange, and that is no longer to be gained.

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                The context is literally the quote in this case.

                Dahl says:

                "I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”

                What connections were you making from his rationalization of “Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason” if not a rationalization of the Jewish genocide?

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                  Didn’t read the second paragraph as part of the quote, to be honest - too much space between paragraphs. Or it got lost the moment someone took offense that I said this wasn’t the best quote to link to the title. I still stand by this. Would have avoided this whole discussion here had the post replaced the word racism with anti-semitism

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                    Avoid blaming others for your own misreading of the quote.

                    You can try Merriam-Webster/Oxford/Cambridge to suggest your own exclusively non-race related definition of racism.

                    You can similarly try contacting the museum to see if they’ll change their statement regarding their condemnation of Dahl’s racism.

                    Keep us updated on your efforts.