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Welcome to this week’s casual kōrero thread!

This post will be pinned in this community so you can always find it, and will stay for about a week until replaced by the next one.

It’s for talking about anything that might not justify a full post. For example:

  • Something interesting that happened to you
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So how’s it going?

  • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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    3 months ago

    Can anyone tell me how a cafe would normally make a long black?

    Single or double shot of espresso?

    How much water to add?

    Online I found things that say a single or double shot plus 100ml of water, but this seems way too much. A standard long black cup may only hold 100ml total? Do I do a double shot with 40ml water added?

    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nzEnglish
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      3 months ago

      A real cafe gives you black coffee and a slap in the face while screaming “enjoy it!” at you.

      But seriously good cafes, will give you a double shot espresso with a jug of hot water ~100ml, so that you can add to your preferred level.

      I am a terrible coffee snob, I drink my coffee black! Usually just espresso but if I’m adding water it is only 20-40ml in a double shot. I find that most cafes are not that good at making black coffee, they get away with it because people mask the flavour with milk etc…

      • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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        3 months ago

        I’ve definitely been served hit water with the coffee but most places have this cup that is the same everywhere, and has a much smaller volume.

        I’m still getting the feel for making my own espresso and so was thinking if I knew how a cafe makes it then I’d have a good benchmark, especially for getting the espresso shot the right strength.

    • liv@lemmy.nz
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      3 months ago

      Definitely 2 shots.

      In NZ everything is 2 shots unless it’s short (a pet hate of mine, a caffe latte shouldn’t essentially be a giant flat white wtf nz) but a long black is 2 shots for real.

      • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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        3 months ago

        A Long Black is prepared by adding approximately 2/3rds boiling water into a cup then extracting a double shot of espresso (60ml) over the water. […] Served in a 200-220ml Ceramic Cup.

        That makes it about 120ml water, which is in line with the other stuff I read. But I’m not convinced, it seems like too much water. Or my espresso isn’t coming out strong enough. Or maybe it’s the preparation. I have been doing the espresso first then the water. Maybe I need to try water first, then espresso.