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ATB is the worst turn based system in any game.
My people.
It really is the worst of both worlds.
I’ll accept ATB as a compromise and an attempt to jazz up a basic turn based system, a product of its time. I think X2 had a fun take on it with attack chains and different abilities having different casting/cool down times to consider. My ideal is deep turn based combat I need to take my time thinking about.
The worst for me are the action games, personally. I play Devil May Cry and like it, but that’s not what I want the flagship JRPG series to be. There are lots of places to get great action games, I don’t need Final Fantasy to chase trends.
I haven’t seen anything done with ATB a simple dynamic turn order wouldn’t do better. Not only do I strongly dislike any kind of time pressure, you also get rid of the wait time between turns.
Maybe X2 does something a simple dynamic turn order could not, I honestly don’t know. I got the game for free when buying X and only played it for like 10 minutes. After coming out of X thinking it had the best battle system out of any FF yet, I quit X2 after the first battle just for going back to ATB. That being said, I’d rather go back and try X2 again instead of playing XVI. I completely agree on action gameplay in FF being worse.
every Final Fantasy is the best one
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- Final Fantasy II was a great game.
- Final Fantasy XII is my favourite.
- HEAVENSWARD was the worst XIV expansion and made me quit. Only came back after Stormblood was basically over, but enjoyed it in comparison.
- Final Fantasy XIII is the best one in that failed trilogy and my second favourite mainline game.
- Final Fantasy IV is boring and worst mainline game.
- Final Fantasy VII-R sucks and shouldn’t exist.
- Zenos did nothing wrong and should come back.
Great list but what
Zenos did nothing wrong and should come back.
I just don’t understand how you got through A Realm Reborn.
I gave FFXIII some flak back in the day, but I really did like it. Heck, it has one of my favorite casts. I’m a Snow enjoyer. However, it all went to hell when they made two sequels (with very different setting/theme tone) and decided to keep reusing the lore that people complained about in other games.
Also, I salute you for your courage at saying anything remotely negative about VIIR.
Ffix is the best one. So fuck off
False. Five.
I want to fight you right now but it’s not worth it. It’s not like you said 7
FF8 is overrated (though not bad, just overrated) amongst fans of the series, FF9 was better.
Hot take, most hate ff8
Honestly, if you go to any online FF community, it’s always people banging on about how underrated it is, I rarely actually see people hating on it
I honestly think that FF8 being underrated is just a meme at this point
I’ve taken part in various online FF communities since around the release of FF8, and it certainly hasn’t always been this way. There was a lot of dislike for it for some time, it’s only been the more recent years where it’s getting some love again.
U wan sum fuk?
I will fight you for calling the most underrated FF overrated.
FFXIV’s combat is face numbingly boring.
Also VIII was better than VII.
FF7 remake’s battle system sucks. Some spells whiff so often they’re basically useless (aero against Eligor anyone?), punisher mode is so much better than operator mode there’s no real point in having the latter except for the fact that punisher’s walk speed is awful, the roll’s terrible range and lack of I-frames make it borderline pointless, items shouldn’t use ATB gauge, and guard break is a stupid mechanic that just stretches out fights while making making them less fun.
The games are soundtrack simulators. Nobuo Uetmastu is heart and soul of the series. The rest is just packaging for it.
Jobs and materia are fun to play around with though.
Well that certainly is a hot take.
Soken is good, idk about this other guy though.
It really is a core part of the vibes and tone of the series. Even the ones with no story to speak of and/or bad old turn-based gameplay had the good music, design, etc.
Cold take, I know, but I think FFVIIR is a falsely advertised sequel.
What do you mean by falsely advertised?
agreed, it was a clever bait-and-switch-with-an-out
“no, remake doesn’t stand for REMAKE … it stands for RE-MAKE the story, completely, like … history is being REMADE! it’s time travel baby!”
they knew what they were doing; literally EVERYONE was expecting a close remake of the original game for modern consoles, instead we got a FINE and VERY COOL SEQUEL, but nothing close to the REMAKE they led people to believe.
FF7 is immensely overrated.
Final Fantasy 8 is clearly the best.
The junctioning system is super fun!
It is totally not impossible to find General Caroway under that arch to continue the dialogue to progress the game. I definitely wasn’t stuck that way for years!
I don’t know if 8 is the best. It is really good, but I think 9 and 12 are up there too.
12 is pretty good for reals, but fight me!
I press x a bunch.
FFX is the best one.
Not a controversial opinion.
FF9 was the worst of the PS1 games. Fight me.
Fight me.
Alright, Aldi parking lot. No kicking!
I’d personally would put 7 at the bottom and the top spot for me would be a toss up between 8 and 9.
Aldi it is, I can pick myself up some cheese while I’m there.
I love 7, like really love it but even I can admit it’s overrated. 8 is solid though, underrated in my opinion.
Alright, could use some milk too.
7 never clicked for me at all. Never had the patience to play through it. 8 definitely was severly underrated, but I think I’m seeing a lot more appreciation for it lately.
I thought this was the most common opinion
I think the majority of fans would put VII at the top and VIII at the bottom of the 3.
Aside from that, IX has a lot more stans than VIII. And I’d be willing to bet both VII and VIII have more haters.
Agreed most discord I’ve encountered never takes a shot at 9. It seems like it did nothing anybody could hate.
I had a look at the other comments and not seem anyone calling out FF9 specifically, other than to say it was better. I hated it for every second of it I played (well into disc 4).
I hated 8 at first as well but it grew on me and now it’s a favourite of mine. 9 just never clicked.
Because this thread is for unpopular opinions specifically
The last good Final Fantasy game was 9.
That is a hot take because X is great.
FF12 had the most incomprehensible story in all the main lines.
I like to refer to it as “the Star Wars one”. I could never keep all the Judges straight, the static in all of the voice actor recordings was horrible, and the main cast felt pointless. They were just an audience to the political intrigue and I couldn’t care less. Legitimately couldn’t tell you what the plot is about. Fran’s buttocks carried me through to finishing it.
