Reddit, Twitter. I don’t understand why they are putting so much effort into making sure that people can’t use them comfortably. I always thought there should be as few barriers for the user as possible, otherwise they might drop out. Are these platforms more concerned about selling data for LLMs now?
I always thought there should be as few barriers for the user as possible
This is stage 1 of enshittification. It used to be this way. Reddit is way past that stage.
Fascists want to control or shut down hubs of anti-fascist discourse/organization.
Tiktok too.
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They want to force people to use the app so they can steal their data easier. That’s my guess lol.
Stop going back, it’s not worth it
Unfortunately there’s still a ton of valuable and interesting information submitted to that site and nowhere else.
Fortunately there is Stealth for Reddit.
What does it do?
Allows you to browse Reddit and subscribe to communities anonymously, with a really nice UI.
It’s one of very few apps that I’ve used and been like “I have no notes”. I can’t really think of any way to improve it. It’s perfect at what it does.
How does this work now that the API is dead?
No idea. Some sort of scraping, I assume.
We’re expecting a giant influx of users when the popular workaround, old.reddit.com (perhaps with RES to make it less outdated), inevitably gets shut down. Please try to make Lemmy a worthwile space in the meantime so that they stay!
And please actively remind people to remain civil. We can be better than Reddit in so many ways. I believe!
Yes. However, we need to solve the chicken-and-egg problem of niche communities. For example, there is no Czech community at all after both the czech-lemmy.eu and kyberpunk.social instances went down. It’s only once the communities get going and start appearing in “All/Active” feeds that I’d worry about serious moderation.
It’s a tough position to be in for non-English and regional communities. For something like a game you can cross post in both a general videogames community and a more specific one and help people find it, but there’s not much of an option for any sort of non-English non-pop culture topic.
Feddit.org is quite active
Jlai.lu has 600 monthly active users on the main community
I think Lemmy is and will be quite good at remaining civil because the questionable content makers use their own instances and get defederated. The most edgy community federated with the main cluster I found is [email protected]. It features cryptic posts that presumably make sense if you engage in the decentralized (IRC? Telnet??) discourse channels of sdf.org and some appear to be pro-fascist depending on how you interpret the questionable veil of sarcasm. I don’t think it’s serious enough to consider defederation because the worst ones get massively downvoted anyway.
They’re not just staying on those instances tho…
When they get defederated (usually long before) they find a small boutique instance (that’s actually valid) but didn’t bother to set up any requirements for account creation then make a shit ton of accounts to troll with.
If you ever look at the main modlog you’ll see there’s a significant amount getting banned on a daily basis.
But they just go make another, and even tho most instances are doing something about it, there’s a surprising amount of zombie instances no one will ever change but are still running for some reason and federated with large instances.
Eventually the main ones will need to “prune” a lot of instances, which shouldn’t be surprising considering a year ago everyone wanted to federate with everyone.
Imagine just walking thru a city and inviting literally everyone to come hang out at your apartment, even giving them the door code to get I to your building. That’s kind of what happened.
If it helps any, those memes go straight over my head.
As long as they’re fans of trans positive meme dumps and endless half-serious slap fights about distros, they’ll feel right at home.
Don’t forget the Rule 34 manga and rhetoric of not sexualising anything. Also the college kid Marxists… and Linux cults… And figuring out liberalism and “American liberals” are polar opposites. Basically avoid .ml And obviously don’t let anyone know your skin colour, gender, or sexual preferences if they’re vanilla. And support all war that’s against Russia. I think that’s it- Oh, and don’t reply to the same person more than twice in a thread.
Apart from that, they’ll feel right at home.
Ah, yeah, and obv use Thunder.
What is thunder?
It’s an open source Lemmy app for both iOS and Android
Is it better than voyager?
You forgot to mention the furry porn… so much furry porn…
They won’t even notice anything changed
…you also must despise Trump, and if you don’t, you will.
I joined lemmy just over a year ago when reddit killed its API. I hoped that my favorite subreddit would come here too but it didn’t so I wandered back to reddit. I was clinging to old.reddit.com and would probably have stayed around for as long as that lasted. But recently they began requiring email addresses. That was too much and here I am.
My account still works without an email address.
Well that’s not fair.
How are you seeing that an email is required? Is it when you try to post something? My account is banned so I just us it to lurk but I can still log in.
My account is banned. I can still log in and lurk, but not post, upvote, etc. And, as I already said: When I log in to the main site, it says “account permanently banned”. When I log in to old reddit, it says “provide an email to reactivate your account”.
I didn’t see where you already said that. Weird though that it happens to you and not me. Seems like we’re doing the same things otherwise. I did recently have an issue where my adblock was preventing me from logging in on firefox but it was just saying my username/password were invalid. If you have that going maybe try turning it off to log in and see what happens.
Whoopsies! I posted that to a similar conversation in a completely different thread, I got confused. My apologies. I don’t know what you mean when you say that it is happening to me but not to you. You say that your account is banned and that you can only lurk - sounds exactly the same as my experience. Nothing to do with adblock as I have confirmed the problem on multiple platforms.
Can I ask which subreddit or is it private? I know which communities I miss but I’m curious what communities we need to cultivate for others.
Reddit is already rate-limiting old.reddit.com traffic. There are already few threads about it.
Hadn’t heard that, could you drop a link?
Thanks! Maybe they are doing this because old.reddit is more convenient to scrape, and stopping unauthorized data collection seems to be a priority for them? Since it isn’t actively worked on you wouldn’t need to constantly update a scraping program every time there’s a change to the site that breaks it.
Over the last year I think I’ve dropped in about six times out of sheer habit, and each time I am driven away by the undeniable force of asshole design.
Lemme apps are better now anyway, and no ads
Havent tried for a while, but you used to be able to change the url to
to bypass these shitty “use our app instead”. You don’t get mobile view but you can at least see it
There’s also firefox extension that does just that, in case you forget.
the “new” design is pretty much unusable on desktop too, imo. IF I absolutely must visit reddit, old.reddit it is.
On mobile you can use RedReader. When reddit revoked access to its API, it made an exception for RedReader, because that app supports certain accessibility features which are “not yet” (i.e. never will be) supported by the official reddit app. So if you still want to access reddit on mobile, use RedReader, it has no ads and is much less irritating than the official reddit app.
I think they made an exception because it’s so awful that no one would ever want to use it…
I am a lazy prick, so I’m just now using Power Delete Suite to mass edit my stuff on reddit to promote lemmy.
I’ve heard a fair number of people say Reddit looks for and rolls back mass delete/edits like these. Not sure how true it is.
It did for me, like once or twice. Just running the script again worked though.
Don’t delete your account, go back and mass change your posts and comments to AI generated gibberish.
It poisons their communities and will make it harder for Reddit from monetizing their content for Learned Language models for AI or for search.
Can’t they see the edits? They must have an archive for it.
lmao, what was the subreddit?
I hit it when visiting the rdx subreddit, but it happens to pretty much all new, small subs
That’s only on mobile browser mode. Open your browser settings and select Desktop site and you won’t see that modal anymore.
Still an asshole design, though.
Why did you have to delete it twice? Once did it for me (kidding) But back when reddit was cute (long long ago) they had this thing where they’d ask “are you sure” a lot of times and switch buttons and stuff to trick you (in a playful way) I liked it back then
It’s funny because Ukrainian war videos are put into the main feed, and you can watch the videos. But when you click the title to read the comments it asks you to login for sensitive content.
It’s such a shitty, buggy and slow website.
Oldlander extension for Firefox. Works great.
On iOS I use Sink it for reddit to get around this
I cannot stress this enough: if you just want to browse reddit without interacting with anyone and supporting their greedy, stupid bullshit, I highly recommend RDX.
I can second this, it’s handy enough for the occasional check
I’m checking it out by your recommendation. I do post sometimes so I use Dystopia for that but oh it’s a horrendous UI. I suppose that’s why Spaz allowed it - and because it’s supposed to be for visually impaired.
Edit: doesn’t seem to offer anything substantial beyond Dystopia so I’m fine with Dystopia.
I literally said it’s for people who don’t interact with the site. Of course dystopia is more substantial. Lol
Or nsfwbrowser, for you know, the good stuff
Whats that? Link?
Lets you see all the naughty subreddits, while using reddits resources, and giving them no data or analytics
I hate the fact that reddit has so much valuable data in it, like thousands of extremely niche subreddits and answers to your questions.
I wish someone could just mirror it all
*had. I deleted all my posts that I could find. I hope many others did the same. “Conveniently” these assholes limit how far back in your post history you can go, and beyond that I can no longer delete comments because I can’t systematically browse them to edit in “Fuck reddit!”. :/
Does old.reddit.com not work anymore ?
It does - ever since the “new new UI” I had been using that exclusively. Still, there’s a limit in how many pages back you can go in your comment history to edit / delete. If you happen to find one of your old comments by other means, you can still edit it - but not through your own history. But I see that long before that caps out, some of my comments have already been restored, after having been gone for months… Those fuckers…
Wait, this makes it sound like you were doing it by hand? There’s quite a few tools to do that for you, e.g. https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
Actually, I found archiveteam’s reddit dump. I think we can re-host this on activitypub, as a form of read-only, easy to browse archive.
The data is on archive.org is marked non-downloadable to limit traffic. I emailed archive.org requesting one of the 10GB pieces to experiment with. Fingers crossed
Doing it all at once could be tough, but
one niche sub at a time maybe?
Yes, you’ll have to download it one sub at a time imo. The issue is that Reddit hosts a ton of illegal content including stuff that could possibly be CP and bestiality, along with full service sex work, drug dealing, and shoplifting/stealing Reddits. Somehow the laws that took down Backpage and Craigslist personals left Reddit pretty much unscathed.
Spez himself was the moderator for r/jailbait. A large function of Reddit is to data mine people and then (I speculate) blackmail them later for this illegal/adult/unrevealed content if they turn out to be influential. This is also why Reddit is so extremely picky about their porn subs and who (in terms of adult Content Creators) they allow to post/interact with users, and why they no longer have mod transparency.
And before anyone starts calling me too crazy, let me add one more crazy conspiracy to the pile- the conspiracy that Ghilisaine Maxwell was a regular poster to the News subreddits. Sorry to link to this sub, but this does have the tldr of this conspiracy and links etc fornthe curious. In general r/conspiracy is a rightwing shithole ofc. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/r45a5n/here_is_the_evidence_that_reddit_user_maxwellhill/
Epstein was a fraudster who, once he was caught, needed money. He got it from Les Wexler who gave him a house outfitted with cameras. Epstein wasn’t a trafficker as his primary purpose. He was getting blackmail.
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Thanks for contacting us.
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I heard that they gave links when you emailed them but nah