There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.
But they do have mobile arm builds already don’t they? Of course iOS is very different from Android but it’s not like they’d have to do complete port. And it targets the same architecture that’s in macs and they have builds for it obviously.
The best argument that I believe still has merit is this:
All websites on the internet—including ad networks!—are guests on our computers, and the content they provide are merely suggestions for a user agent to interpret and show us how it chooses.
If you agree with this—and I kinda do—then yeah, PPA shouldn’t exist. You’re probably a staunch user of uBlock (or uMatrix) and don’t want your browser engaging in any privacy-preserving attribution shenanigans.
But here’s the kicker: if you use uBlock, PPA won’t do anything. It can’t, even when left enabled. For the API to be called, ads need to get to your browser first, and uBlock doesn’t allow them to get that far. The only people really affected by PPA are people not using adblocking, i.e. the people being tracked all over the web, who would likely benefit from PPA.
As I said in a previous comment: if PPA works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing it on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.
And for all that Mozilla is implementing “bullshit,” they’re also the only ones keeping uBlock 100% functional by maintaining manifest V2. They spend time and resources protecting the very thing that trumps their supposed bullshit. That feels not like enshittification to me, but a group trying its best, even while stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Wow, can’t wait to not only have my data harvested by Apple but also Google!
FFS, stop cumming for Chrome and start using Firefox!
There’s no Firefox engine for iOS and Mozilla says it doesn’t make financial sense to port it.
Did they say that? Cause it looks like there is at least some work being done on this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872
There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.
What exactly is there to port anyway?
The rendering engine.
Currently Firefox on iOS is “just” a skin around the iOS provided renderer.
I don’t give a mousefuck about the rendering engine. I want extensions
Sounds like you do care about the rendering engine as that would basically give you a true mobile Firefox experience and access to all the extensions.
Gecko, the browser engine?
GeckoView more specifically in this case. But yes.
But they do have mobile arm builds already don’t they? Of course iOS is very different from Android but it’s not like they’d have to do complete port. And it targets the same architecture that’s in macs and they have builds for it obviously.
By the time the masses move it will be an enshittified fork of chrome.
Edge?
Opera?
Wasn’t Firefox starting to implement some bullshit too?
What do you believe Mozilla was implementing?
privacy preserving attribution
Thanks. I know you’re not OP, but I’ll take this opportunity to answer anyway.
…is not as bad as many people think.
The best argument that I believe still has merit is this:
If you agree with this—and I kinda do—then yeah, PPA shouldn’t exist. You’re probably a staunch user of uBlock (or uMatrix) and don’t want your browser engaging in any privacy-preserving attribution shenanigans.
But here’s the kicker: if you use uBlock, PPA won’t do anything. It can’t, even when left enabled. For the API to be called, ads need to get to your browser first, and uBlock doesn’t allow them to get that far. The only people really affected by PPA are people not using adblocking, i.e. the people being tracked all over the web, who would likely benefit from PPA.
As I said in a previous comment: if PPA works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing it on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.
And for all that Mozilla is implementing “bullshit,” they’re also the only ones keeping uBlock 100% functional by maintaining manifest V2. They spend time and resources protecting the very thing that trumps their supposed bullshit. That feels not like enshittification to me, but a group trying its best, even while stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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It’s really not, Safari does a pretty good job keeping up with standards and whatnot.