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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
    12·
    2 months ago

    Again, you refuse to look at examples from outside the USA. Voting in Canada is extremely simple, you get a guaranteed 4h off work while voting is open, they have people willing to transport you, you can show up without ID and swear that you are who you say you are and as long as they have your name and address on the list at the office you showed up to, you can vote. Voter turnout for those under 35? About 45%. We have a variety of parties as well, not just two. In my province we also have a party that is there pretty much specifically to defend the interests of younger people and those with little financial means. People under 35 just don’t vote!

    They’re supporting the decisions of the State of Israel, they’re Israel supporters, just like people who support the decisions of the Democrats are Democrat supporters. Yes it’s a genocide, it’s committed by a State and that State needs to be mentioned.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
        21·
        2 months ago

        I’m showing you that young people don’t vote in general, there’s nothing special about the USA, it’s not about the party not catering to them, they just don’t vote.

        Reading comprehension isn’t your forte, I get that, but open your eyes and start looking at what’s going on outside your country, it might help you understand what’s going on in yours.

        You want Kamala to come out and say she’ll stop selling bombs to Israel? Fine, she’ll get a defeat and the Republicans will sell even more bombs to Israel. Instead she can say the USA will support Israel while also saying that Palestinians don’t deserve their current faith, get elected and then do something about Israel.

        Again, in the end you have two options in the USA and one would gladly see Gaza be wiped out completely so what gains are there to make for the Democrats to adopt a more radical stance against Israel when they know they’re currently the most reasonable option of the two?

        Political strategy doesn’t care about your feelings, it’s about getting elected.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          2 months ago

          You want Kamala to come out and say she’ll stop selling bombs to Israel? Fine, she’ll get a defeat

          I think you overestimate single-issue pro-genocide voters.

          Again, in the end you have two options in the USA and one would gladly see Gaza be wiped out completely

          I have two options what would gladly see Gaza wiped out completely. I’m upset about that. I know why you aren’t.

          • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
            11·
            2 months ago

            You interpret my analysis of their political strategy as me supporting the genocide happening right now, that’s very insulting.

            You truly need to take a step back, you’re clearly too emotional to have this conversation.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              2 months ago

              You truly need to take a step back, you’re clearly too emotional to have this conversation.

              Imagine being emotional about genocide.

              You want me to believe that you dispassionately weighed the evidence and monstrous cold logic dictated that continuing to sell weapons so that genocide can flourish was the correct decision. I don’t buy it. I think you started from a conclusion you liked and worked your way backwards.

              • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                11·
                2 months ago

                You want to have a conversation about if it’s right or wrong to send bombs to Israel when this conversation is about the political strategy behind the decision to continue to mention support for Israel during the campaign, they’re two separate discussions and you’re clearly unable to distinguish between the two.