• Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    From a game theory perspective, a trumper discouraged to vote is worth 1 vote, a flipped Republican vote is worth 2 votes.

    So the appeal to the right makes sense if it works, because every vote from that camp is also a negative vote from Trump.

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      But from the other side, an endorsement from Bush and Cheney might flip some Democrats, specifically the Muslims who are already pissed off about the “helping the Gazan Genocide” thing.

      Hillary lost my vote by campaigning with Kissinger. If he escaped Hell and went on campaign with Harris I’d abstain again, no question. Maybe just an endorsement could slide but it’d have to be unasked for and she’d need to take a stance on immediate execution of zombies.

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        Flip to what? There’s no alternative in the US. You voted for Trump because you were pissed at Hillary? That sounds absolutely idiotic.

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          At this point the dumbest thing we can do is assume someone else isn’t going to do the dumb thing

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            Not even getting to his innumerable crimes against humanity, Henry Kissinger killed 300,000 Americans at a minimum just to get a job, something that was public knowledge in 2016.

            Blue Maga shitlibs like yourselves should maybe consider whether that might have been personal for a lot of people. And how that might also apply to a person with, say, family that went to Iraq to help kill a million Iraqis and came back broken themselves.

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              And yet, us ahem “Blue Maga” are also the ones who fight for abortion rights. We want justice, not just equality. We hate wars, and dislike people who lie selfishly for gain at the expense of others. We also recognize that not everything can be fixed by anger and good intentions, that there will be setbacks and total failures. Many of us also still have hope and will fight for the rights of even those who view us somehow as their enemy. This is why you see so much less anger directed at you or even at actual MAGA supporters.

              We’re angry that they’ve allowed themselves to get duped so badly. We’re angry that malicious and evil idealism has even managed to take hold. We’re angry at the generations who sat on their hands. We’re angry, just a little, at one another for never coming to agreements. While you’re busy hyperventilating, take a moment between gasps to consider your position. Why did we go to Iraq? Who continued pushing for wars? Who benefits the most? Which party fights so hard to stop Veteran care?

              Be angry, just make sure to point it at the correct people.