[alt text: an illustration of a person with a head-empty expression on their face, who is saying, “Not letting your cat outside is CRUEL!” Around the person are various gruesome scenes of different cats in distress. From the top and going clockwise, the scenes include: a cat being carried away by a hawk; a cat that is on fire; a dead cat in the road that has been run over by a car; several dead kittens; a cat that is missing an eye and various patches of fur; a cat that is feasting on a songbird; and a cat that is being carried away by a coyote. The person appears to be completely oblivious to these scenes of distress.]

  • echo@lemmings.world
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    2 months ago

    Quick! Give us the stupidist fucking take on this that you possibly can!

    Today we learned that outdoor birds and cats are extinct because cats killed all the birds and wolves/birds killed all the cats.

    • coyotino [he/him]@beehaw.orgOP
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      2 months ago

      cats are an invasive species. this is a proven fact, supported by ecologists. and if you love your cat, you won’t let them outside to get run over by a car. there are million other ways to provide a cat with similar enrichment.

        • coyotino [he/him]@beehaw.orgOP
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          2 months ago

          I as a human can make the conscious choice to live in harmony with the living beings around me. Cats are predators that act on instinct most of the time. It isn’t their fault that they hunt delicate species to extinction just for fun - they literally cannot help it. Which is why we, the humans with big brains and reason, need to help them more harmoniously with their environment. Especially given that we are the bastards that brought them all over the world in the first place.

        • Swallowtail@beehaw.org
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          2 months ago

          Humans are not an invasive species. We migrated to everywhere we currently live. Invasive species are usually defined something along the lines of being a species that was introduced somewhere (by people) where it didn’t previously exist and is harmful to its new environment. We meet the harmfulness part of the definition but not the introduction part of it.

    • jerkface@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      Several years ago, we (ie the human scientific community) learned that cats are the leading cause of death of ALL BIRDS AND MAMMALS IN NORTH AMERICA.

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        2 months ago

        Perhaps all cats collectively, but not well-fed, cared-for house cats in particular. I’ve always had cats and they only very rarely catch a bird. It does the cause a disservice to be intellectually dishonest.

        • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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          2 months ago

          Agreed. The “feral” (shed cats) that we take care of (and fixed)… They’ve killed all of maybe 12 animals in the past 8 years that we know of (maybe 10x that for shit they’ve killed that we didn’t know about). The correct answer is that number would be thousands of critters… but isn’t because we give them cat food that’s available to them at will. It also stops them from roaming outside of the “local” area.

          The large population of cats together can do a bunch of damage. Feral cats likely do a hell of a lot damage. But claiming that letting a single cat be outside is the end of the world for the local critters is crazy.