Seen on reddit. Someone asked: "What happens after the welfare cuts? I feel this has not been thought through properly. There are currently over 1.6 million people actively looking for work, and around 736,000 jobs available."
Another redditor responded: "*I work in a job centre.
We are openly told by line managers there is no plan. The reforms will mean many people lose out directly (their PIP is cut), but also indirectly (carers of people with PIP are entitled to an additional rate on UC).
The main things we are being trained for is an increase in 6PP situations (suicidal claimants) and additional training on managing those with severe health conditions whilst on UC.
The Work Capability Assessment system is expected to totally collapse immediately after the reforms are implemented due to demand as people denied PIP scramble to get LCWRA classification.
Even the harshest people on my team see it as a disasterous act of cruelty, as someone put it “saying the quiet part out loud.”*
What is the government hoping will happen? There aren’t enough jobs already. Do they hope everyone just kills themselves? Or turns to crime like mugging and shoplifting?
No wonder the UK is the second most miserable country on earth: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/latest-updates/uk-is-officially-the-worlds-second-most-miserable-country-these-were-the-happiest-and-unhappiest-countries-of-2023/articleshow/108361220.cms?from=mdr
DECLINE
How is this really any different to the Aktion T4 policies enacted by the Nazis? At least euthanasia injections are faster for us victims, but they might be “too expensive” by the government’s logic.
Because liberal sensibilities generally don’t recognize social murder as murder, so this gives them deniability.
That’s what I was thinking about. It’s a more anonymous way than that from the Nazis, the doctors and bureaucrats responsible had no problem executing these policies in public, exposing their names. Of course the responsibility extended far beyond them too (even the families of the victims sometimes).
Nowadays nobody calls for mass murder out loud and those complicit of it can excuse themselves with “austerity measures” and “just doing my job” bullshit narratives.
Yeah, in the early days of the Nazi “euthanasia” program, the families played an active part (like I understand they have in the Canadian euthanasia program) but it was eventually taken out of the hands of the families as the Nazis went from killing people whose families gave them up to the remaining targets, people whose families actually cared about them. In all these cases, families and the states were trumpeted as heroes of mercy.
In most places today, the “mercy” routine is regarded as plainly evil (though like with a lot of evil things the Nazis did, a large reason is just that the Nazis did it), so instead it has pivoted to “it’s not my fault if you can’t feed yourself,” spoken by the people who monopolize the available means by which someone could feed themselves.
we had a new hire at work whos last job was the DWP, and did assessments for disability cases.
I wonder how many people are dead after dealing with him?
It seems the Labour government is trying to make the whole public into fascists so they can blame these moves on immigrants.
I spent 3 years on the dole and had one actually helpful advisor who helped me in my job search for a few months before he got moved to the back room and I instead got an endless series of random drones who just wanted me to stop collecting dole.
In the end I actually got a job from someone I met while volunteering.I’ve been lucky enough to avoid the system but everyone I’ve ever heard experience it just makes my blood incandescent with how bleak and evil we are just to fund the parasite class.
For a comparison, Starmer in 9 months cut the same amount of PIP as the conservatives did in 9 years
Nothing will convince me that he isn’t worse than any tory prime minister since Thatcher
Labour always treat the disabled even worse than the conservatives. Labour are saying now they are going to give job coaches in job centres the power to decide whether someone is medically fit for work or not.
“Sorry, but we have banned you from working…also, no benefits as that would be stealing! But you’re also not allowed to work!”
So….death panels? The UK literally has a system in place now to determine who among their populace lives or dies.
But hey, look on the bright side! At least we’re not putting any pressure on porky! Live and let live (unless you’re a minority then we hope you get hate crimed for the horrible act of mildly annoying the snobs!)
0·6 days ago~80 years ago, Labor looked to the Conservatives on what to do with their foreign policy and how to handle the Soviets.
Today, Labor looks to the Conservatives on what to do with PIP.
Nothing. Ever. Changes.
Holy fuck. Something has got to give. How can the people accept this?
Too exhausted and hopeless to do otherwise.
😳 this is disgusting. But as long as the wealthiest get more tax-breaks, this is acceptable to fascists.
More than acceptable; essential. Without culling the disabled there isnt the money to afford militarisation. Also relieves the NHS of responsibility to care for people with chronic illnesses when they’re simply too poor to survive.
It’s just a fucking mess, and our petty mobilisations will do nothing until they’re also paired with actions that even suggesting would be legally in poor taste.
Jesus fuck
I wonder if a civil service revolt is possible. Just start rubber stamping LCWRA.
Our civil service is servile to the state. They offer the best pension rates in the country and relatively competitive pay, and stellar job security backed by some of the most powerful trade unions still operating.
Maybe if the govt goes after the services more; they’ve suggested cutting jobs etc. but so far seem to be aware that keeping the administrators of genocide placated is the most vital role of the modern british state.
so, in the US, the way the powers prevent civil servants from giving people money who don’t meet the latest bullshit requirements, but obviously need the money is that they make those people responsible for it in perpetuity.
so, when the system is scrutinized or audited in the future (and they always fully fund that side so everything is tripled checked), the government forcibly takes the money out of their account immediately and renders fines and penalties if their current balance won’t cover it. which of course incurs more fines from their bank, and basically cripples them from participating at all in the formal economy for years. it’s insanely punitive, so case workers are terrified of giving anyone anything extra.
also, if the case worker makes a good faith mistake and awards “too much” it’s the same thing: the client of the program gets obliterated.
it’s draconian and in sharp contrast to massive contracts for capital formations who just get the money and openly pocket it without hitting deliverables.
Sounds about right for this shit hole country but it’s not something I’ve heard before. Could you link a source?
You mean the civil servants have to pay the disabled person’s benefits out of their own money if they wrongly award it?
no, the disabled person does. and if it isn’t repaid immediately, they intercept/garnish any other income until it is. and I’d such an interception would create an “extreme hardship”, they will take less at a time but never waive what is owed. and that’s only if the person has the paperwork/proof of extreme hardship to make the appeal. meanwhile, they also disqualify one from receiving future assistance they do qualify for, until the overpayments are paid back.
it’s an extremely punitive system for the person requesting assistance.
The beneficiary.
