• yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
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    Huston is one of the most populated cities in the US and it’s built on a swamp. Everyone acts super surprised when it floods semi-annually, like it’s some kind of tragedy as opposed to basic physics.

    Next thing you know Arizona will start complaining that they’ve run out of water. I mean, yes? You’re in the desert. Your choices were to fix the climate, move, or die. Instead you’ve built a gigantic parking lot of a city.

    There should be no aid whatsoever for natural disasters that strike predictably on a regular basis. Human beings aren’t dumb animals. We can communicate. Also Florida, Louisiana, and Texas literally voted for global warming. They got what they voted for so what is the issue?

    Actions have consequences. We failed to act for a century. That’s how long we’ve known with absolute certainty that the climate was fucked. We put people on the moon, and we went to war with Iraq, but heaven forbid people stop eating meat, driving their precious cars, or taking pleasure cruises. Zero. Pity.

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      There are probably some cases where it’s true it was irresponsible to build somewhere. For most people though, they may have been born there; they may have had to move there for work. Denying pity to people who have suffered a tragedy without ever knowing their circumstances is heartless. The world you want to live in would step over you in a minute the moment you fucked up.

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        people who have suffered a tragedy

        Global warming is not a tragedy. It’s a highly predictable FAFO moment. We decided, as a civilization, to do this to ourselves. It’s not an anomaly. We voted for it. People were asked “do you want hurricanes to wash away your houses?” and they said, “yes, please!”

        Of course, that’s not true for children and animals, and I have so much sadness for them. But the adults? No. I watched them choose this.

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          Global warming is a tragedy. The greatest tragedy of our time.

          My point is our culture needs more empathy. Outrage and anger, there’s enough of that. Empathy, even for those who made a mistake.

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            Uhh, you want me to have empathy for the people who are actively attempting to end all sentient life on this planet? I’m good.

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              … no I want you to have empathy for people who just lost their homes. It’s OK though. I have no problem letting you go off in your hate filled tizzy. I know nothing I do or say can get through to you. We will see you on the otherside, though. When the, “it could never happen to me” turns into “why doesn’t anyone care?”

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                You’re right about empathy, and I have plenty of it for the people who didn’t actively choose this. But for those who are talking about rebuilding their home for the third time in a zone most prone to these disasters and simultaneously denying climate change (likely voting for reps who shoot down mitigating measures)? No, they can get fucked. They’re hurting all of us through their wilful ignorance.

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                Well, no… It’s not hate. It’s apathy. I expended a lot of psychic energy caring over the years and dreading this exact outcome. I stopped eating meat. I didn’t own a car. Then these folks elected Donald Trump. Idk man. Maybe we aren’t meant to help these creatures. Maybe it’s just FAFO.

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                    True, I don’t like it when animals suffer. So there’s a bit of a paradox at play here. To the extent that they are animals, I do not wish them to suffer. But to the extent that they are rational creatures, or persons, then their choices were evil and they deserve to suffer. So the only way that I can feel pity for them is to strip them of their rational autonomy and personhood and treat them as mere animals (granting them pity).

                    Is that what you think I should do? Regard 80% of humanity as little more than amoral apes with a tenuous grasp of language? Well, that might be the truth.

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      Arizona will start complaining that they’ve run out of water

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/27/arizona-scottsdale-water-cut-off-rio-verde-foothills-drought

      Little community refused to connect to the public utility grid. Wanted to live the libertarian, no government, get eaten by bears ideal. Local government they were mooching off for water said “Hey, we actually need this for our community. No more mooching.” They could fix the problem by incorporating, but instead they went to the news media.

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        Worse is the Supreme Court not honoring centuries old treaties in water rights cases for native tribes. These people were promised the land and now the government wants to say the right to water was not part of it.