Savage world Rifts. The setting is fantastic, the 1st party rules are a mess as the best of times. Savage worlds rules set enrich the rifts world by making it a playable.
In the same vein, I was in a Shadowrun campaign that switched over to the Sprawlrunners rules for Savage Worlds (which can be used for either Shadowrun or Cyberpunk). Savage Worlds brought out the dynamic action and calculated hacking scenes that define good cyberpunk fiction without being dragged down by clunky rules.
I love Shadowrun as a setting and a game aesthetic; but fuck do I hate the sheer bookkeeping of just standing a character up, never mind the density of the actual play.
Oh nah when I say “online” in this case, I’m talking “getting out of character creation and into gameplay”. Only found one good program that made Shadowrun chums, but it was a for-cost account that locked the purchase code to one machine. And I lost that code; so I’m just… Never making a sheet again, 'cause I’m not going back to the days of meticulously tabbing out how much nuyen I spent on what during character creation in a notepad file again.
(And honestly, roll20 play as far as Shadowrun goes is just as dense from what I remember.)
Savage world Rifts. The setting is fantastic, the 1st party rules are a mess as the best of times. Savage worlds rules set enrich the rifts world by making it a playable.
Honestly, especially after their team up with Paizo, SWADE has been really, really improving and become my favorite system to reskin things in.
Hell I’m thinking about running a Curse of Strahd campaign in Savage Worlds.
In the same vein, I was in a Shadowrun campaign that switched over to the Sprawlrunners rules for Savage Worlds (which can be used for either Shadowrun or Cyberpunk). Savage Worlds brought out the dynamic action and calculated hacking scenes that define good cyberpunk fiction without being dragged down by clunky rules.
It is an unfortunate fact that Shadowrun tends to suffocate under its own density.
I love Shadowrun as a setting and a game aesthetic; but fuck do I hate the sheer bookkeeping of just standing a character up, never mind the density of the actual play.
I have never played Shadowrun online. I wonder if a lot of the tedium of the dice would be eliminated by character sheet math?
Oh nah when I say “online” in this case, I’m talking “getting out of character creation and into gameplay”. Only found one good program that made Shadowrun chums, but it was a for-cost account that locked the purchase code to one machine. And I lost that code; so I’m just… Never making a sheet again, 'cause I’m not going back to the days of meticulously tabbing out how much nuyen I spent on what during character creation in a notepad file again.
(And honestly, roll20 play as far as Shadowrun goes is just as dense from what I remember.)
@frauddogg @StraySojourner we went back to 3rd edition. It’s a bit better.
A bit.