I saw that movie with my dad, who spent years reading about the Titanic because he took an interest in it for some reason.
I’m not sure which one of us hated that movie more.
I’m glad that people are looking back on it these days and realizing it was just not a good movie.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.
That, and I have a memory of my father saying something along the lines of, “why were we supposed to care about those two fictional people when there were real people on the Titanic?” I do not disagree.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.
Did it have a dude bouncing off a propeller while emitting the Wilhelm Scream? I didn’t think so.
If you take out the Jack/Rose love story and add some of the Californian’s scenes and a bit in the wireless room, you could edit Cameron’s Titanic down to a pretty good remake of A Night to Remember. He was clearly influenced by it, some scenes are lifted straight from the ANtR narrative even though they are known to be inaccurate (Andrews in the first class smoking room, Smith on the bridge as the ship goes down come to mind).
I like the Cameron Titanic, actually. The love story notwithstanding, it’s well worth watching for his attention to detail. The reconstruction of the ship was meticulous, and with a few notable exceptions for dramatic license, the account of the sinking is quite accurate (for the information we had at the time - we now know the breakup is incorrect, but at the time it was the best theory) and contains quite a few easter eggs for Titanic nerds. (like me)
That said… I love A Night to Remember and watch it every year on the anniversary of the sinking. The book is well worth reading, too. Walter Lord assembled his narrative based on correspondence with as many survivors as he could reach - often verbatim as they told it, and it’s really a riveting read.
Funny, I recommended A Night to Remember elsewhere in this post as a far better film.
Anyway, I agree with you on the detail. It was very impressive. I just won’t sit through the film to watch it when I can watch A Night to Remember, even if they didn’t know certain details, like the ship splitting in half.
Yeah, I haven’t actually sat down to watch the 1997 Titanic in a long time, for that reason. A Night to Remember exists. 1997 Titanic breaks in half, but in the wrong place, so they’re both wrong about it ;)
No, it did split in half. It just didn’t reach such a steep angle before it did. There’s two great videos by Oceanliner Designs that go in-depth on what the movie got wrong, as well as what likely actually happened during the breakup.
True, but I was not a nerd on the topic. I just thought it was stupid to shoehorn a boring forbidden love subplot into a movie about the most famous fucking ship sinking of all time as if that alone wasn’t dramatic enough.
People believed and still believe in a lot of fictional things.
I’m not sure why you think “people believed in it” is an argument for the existence of anything. You’re even calling it a myth yourself. You might look up the meaning of that word.
No, gender is a social construct, not a myth. That’s like saying fashion is a myth.
You’re making the most bizarre argument I have ever seen. People believed in Anubis for thousands of years. Please do show me one shred of evidence for the existence of Anubis as a real being.
I saw that movie with my dad, who spent years reading about the Titanic because he took an interest in it for some reason.
I’m not sure which one of us hated that movie more.
I’m glad that people are looking back on it these days and realizing it was just not a good movie.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.
I don’t understand how either of you would be upset watching the movie. The rich girl slept with a homeless guy, and then she let him drown.
It’s movie magic
That, and I have a memory of my father saying something along the lines of, “why were we supposed to care about those two fictional people when there were real people on the Titanic?” I do not disagree.
The entire movie was a build up to the guy hitting the propellers.
I wonder if you could edit Jack and Rose out of the movie and make it good?
That’s an interesting idea. I’d like to know the result, too.
Gotta keep all of Billy Zanes scenes though.
Maybe add a walk-off and a handful of male models
But why male models?
How about a super short but also super high budget edutainment show?
Did it have a dude bouncing off a propeller while emitting the Wilhelm Scream? I didn’t think so.
If you take out the Jack/Rose love story and add some of the Californian’s scenes and a bit in the wireless room, you could edit Cameron’s Titanic down to a pretty good remake of A Night to Remember. He was clearly influenced by it, some scenes are lifted straight from the ANtR narrative even though they are known to be inaccurate (Andrews in the first class smoking room, Smith on the bridge as the ship goes down come to mind).
I like the Cameron Titanic, actually. The love story notwithstanding, it’s well worth watching for his attention to detail. The reconstruction of the ship was meticulous, and with a few notable exceptions for dramatic license, the account of the sinking is quite accurate (for the information we had at the time - we now know the breakup is incorrect, but at the time it was the best theory) and contains quite a few easter eggs for Titanic nerds. (like me)
That said… I love A Night to Remember and watch it every year on the anniversary of the sinking. The book is well worth reading, too. Walter Lord assembled his narrative based on correspondence with as many survivors as he could reach - often verbatim as they told it, and it’s really a riveting read.
Funny, I recommended A Night to Remember elsewhere in this post as a far better film.
Anyway, I agree with you on the detail. It was very impressive. I just won’t sit through the film to watch it when I can watch A Night to Remember, even if they didn’t know certain details, like the ship splitting in half.
Yeah, I haven’t actually sat down to watch the 1997 Titanic in a long time, for that reason. A Night to Remember exists. 1997 Titanic breaks in half, but in the wrong place, so they’re both wrong about it ;)
The breakup theory is incorrect? So the ship didn’t split in half?
Did no one ever go down there before the movie was made, or did it break under water?
No, it did split in half. It just didn’t reach such a steep angle before it did. There’s two great videos by Oceanliner Designs that go in-depth on what the movie got wrong, as well as what likely actually happened during the breakup.
What the movie got wrong An analysis of the breakup
There also a video that goes more indepth on what the movies got wrong in general.
Any video with 30s clip showing the realistic sinking of the ship? Don’t want to watch a 20 minute video right now.
You could easily just skip ahead in the videos.
Being a huge nerd on certain topics tend to ruin the fun of watching movies.
True, but I was not a nerd on the topic. I just thought it was stupid to shoehorn a boring forbidden love subplot into a movie about the most famous fucking ship sinking of all time as if that alone wasn’t dramatic enough.
What about Noah’s Ark? What about the Argo?
What about the U.S.S. Enterprise?
I’m not talking about fictional ships.
Also, the Ark famously did not sink.
Then the Bismarck, the Marat or the Yamato? Or Space Battleship Yamato?
Yes? In fact, I haven’t even heard of the Marat.
Also, none of those ships have this many movies about them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_the_Titanic
I was joking around.
That said, I think there are an infinite amount of films about the Yamato in Japan.
Also, there are no Swedish power metal songs about the Titanic, but there is at least one about the Bismarck and the Dreadnought.
Also, the Dreadnought named a whole ship class internationally.
The Argo isn’t fictional. It was a prominent part of the Hellenic religion’s myths. People believed in it.
People believed and still believe in a lot of fictional things.
I’m not sure why you think “people believed in it” is an argument for the existence of anything. You’re even calling it a myth yourself. You might look up the meaning of that word.
Gender is also a myth. You might as well argue Socrates wasn’t a famous man, because maleness is a myth.
No, gender is a social construct, not a myth. That’s like saying fashion is a myth.
You’re making the most bizarre argument I have ever seen. People believed in Anubis for thousands of years. Please do show me one shred of evidence for the existence of Anubis as a real being.
Argo fuck yourself (speaking of bad movies).
Keep that made up Bible shit out of God’s house (Lemmy)