• mostdubious@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    it’s actually one of the best things any one of us can do. you fuckin breeders, i swear to god…

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      1 day ago

      Not having children is obviously not a societal change that everybody can do, otherwise humanity would fail. I’m not saying everybody should be having 10 children, but there’s nothing wrong with having a couple.

      The point I’ve been trying to make is that I’m worried that people who see that not having children is the easiest thing you can do to lower your carbon footprint will not care about doing anything else to help save the planet. You’ve done your part, so why not drive that gas guzzler for a little longer. Probably not gonna hurt you too much. I think more people will think this way than people who responsibly have children and have a physical reminder of why they’re trying to care about the future.

      And thanks for labelling me in an out group. Be careful, you’re probably very suseptible to extremism.

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        19 hours ago

        You’re accusing others of extremism in the same breath as you make one of the silliest slippery slope arguments I’ve come across. You think those who choose not to have children due to climate concerns are sitting back, over consuming resources, and thinking they’ve done enough? That’s not an extreme assumption?

        Be careful, you’re treading awfully close to hypocrisy.

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          14 hours ago

          The very slippery slope of content people will remain content? Have you never heard of Panem et Circenses? The Roman proverb of Breads and Circuses that entertainment and material comforts will keep the population content?

          Having children is tough. You will live an easier life if you don’t have children. That’s not an extreme assumption. And if you’ve got yours, and you’ve got nobody to fight for since you’ll be dead in a few years anyway (as everybody seems to believe since society will collapse with climate change as indicated in the linked article) why are you going to give a fuck and give up your comfort to save the future? So yes, I think that people who choose not to have children will sit back thinking they’ve done their part, and the really dangerous part of that is that change needs momentum and being stationary is going to sap the momentum needed for change.

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            4 hours ago

            I sincerely feel sad for you that the concepts of a broad sense of empathy and deep connections with others who don’t share half your DNA seem like such difficult mental exercises, and that you assume those who choose not to act against their values are somehow less moral or caring about society. I don’t know who failed you, but it was certainly someone important.