OTTAWA – A smug man from Canada wasted no time this morning chastising Americans for re-electing terrifying liar and felon Donald Trump, despite the fact that he plans to vote for terrifying liar and asshole Pierre Poilievre in the next Canadian election.

Matt Hunter, a 36-year-old barista, took time away from attending a Poilievre rally to rant about how stupid Americans were for falling for Trump’s fascist bullshit.

“I just can’t believe that someone could look at a petty asshole running on slogans, lies, and faux outrage and think, ‘Yeah, this guy will be good for the country,’” Hunter laughed, taking a quick second to repost an “Axe the Tax, Build the Homes, Fix the Budget, Stop the Crime” tweet on X. “It makes no sense. Luckily we up here in Canada have more common sense. Pierre says so.”

“When Poilievre becomes Prime Minister next year, he’s gonna stand up to Trump. They’re so different in ways that I can’t even describe. Don’t even ask me what those ways are. Just trust me, bro. He’ll bring Canada home again.”

  • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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    I normally vote NDP even though where I live is usually a Liberal stronghold, but this time I’m tempted to vote Bloc.

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      If you’re in a region where it might go either way, vote strategically to get anyone but conservatives in, if that’s the Bloc then so be it. I personally have always voted for them since I live somewhere where it’s either them or the Liberals and I believe in what the Bloc stands for, but remember, in the end they’re there to defend Quebec’s interests first and foremost and provincial policies impact you much more than federal ones and even if there’s a referendum at some point you can just vote against it if you’re not a separatist.

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      If there was a Bloc rep in my Ontario riding I would be carefully considering them vs my own NDP rep.

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        It’s surprising that no other province or group of provinces ever created their own version of the Bloc…

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          I doubt we could do much worse if we just elected 11 different provincial/territorial lobby groups that have to caucus together to pass laws.

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            That’s my opinion as well, or even grouped lobbies (BC, prairies, Ontario, Quebec, Maritimes + NFLD, territories)

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          The only provinces where this would have any impact at all are Quebec and Ontario. Ontario has just over a third of the seats, Quebec has about a quarter. British Columbia and Alberta have just over 10%, everyone else has less. If everyone in New Brunswick voted for the hypothetical New Brunswick First Party, whoever actually ran the show quite likely wouldn’t even think of the whopping 10 votes they could bring to the table. Moreover, Quebec is the most homogeneous province in Canada, so a province first party has better odds there than anywhere else.

          I’d much rather we had national parties that were looking for the best interests of all the regions, and citizens that didn’t seem to firmly believe that a benefit for someone else implies harm to them.

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            “Quebec is the most homogenous province”

            Eh…

            https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/dp-pd/hlt-fst/imm/Table.cfm?Lang=E&T=41&Geo=00&SP=1&vismin=2&age=1&sex=1

            More visible minorities than all the Atlantic provinces, all territories and Saskatchewan and that doesn’t even take into consideration the white Anglo no minority.

            You could also have groups of provinces with their own party so they would have some weight to them.

            Also defending the interests of a province first and foremost doesn’t necessarily go against the interests of other provinces as the same gains apply to them as well.

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              If you count all white people as one group, yes, it is more diverse than some provinces. Given the years of wars and political division between two particular groups of white people that is behind those divisions, I don’t think visible minorities are a particularly relevant point in this topic.

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                Did you look at the website? Choose all visible minorities, Quebec is at 13%, which is more than all the places I mentioned. What is homogeneity if not the % of people that are ethnically part of the majority, i.e. not part of the group that’s considered diversity?

                The white Anglo minority also counts as diversity as they’re culturally different from the white Franco majority, just like in other provinces the white Franco minority counts as diversity because they are culturally different from the white Anglo majority.

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                  Yes, and I don’t see Ukrainian, German, Polish on that list, let alone the more relevant two I referred to, British and French.

                  If you look at the Wikipedia page for the 2016 census you will see that about 89% self-identify as Canadian or French. So what counts as Canadian? The Wikipedia page for that says they’re mostly French Canadians and British Canadians, with a few other of the United Kingdoms thrown in for good measure.

                  So let’s focus on French Canadians. There are about 5 million of those in Canada, and about 85% live in Quebec, or 51% of that 60.1% who identify as Canadian in the above census.

                  Now, back to that 2016 census. 89% as one thing, more or less, just isn’t accurate. But 79.8% is. And that nearly 80% is more than enough to overwhelm the rest into irrelevance in FPTP voting unless those who don’t consider themselves French or French Canadian are concentrated into a few areas, in which case they won’t be completely irrelevant, but they will still only take away a few votes for a party whose primary interest was to the demographics listed above.

                  Now go ahead and find me another province nearly that ethnically homogeneous. And since I was never talking about skin color, instead of using the visible minority page, try out the Ethnic Origin page instead.

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                    First province on that list, Newfoundland, 91.4% Canadian or English… So yep, Quebec isn’t the most homogenous, nice try though!

                    Also, not a very good tool considering that people can reply more than one thing.

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      It’s fucking ridiculous that the only party with significant seats that doesn’t want to expand the tarsands also want to break up the country. Maybe Canada is too stupid to exist.

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        Canada is very much a collection of separate interests that banded together for pragmatic reasons. All this nationalist nonsense people espouse is entirely manufactured. The idea that there even SHOULD be a national identity is bullshit. There should absolutely be a way for groups to leave again when it is no longer in their pragmatic interest to stay.

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          I mean, Quebec doesn’t evenn really want to leave. Legault has found a winning strategy that will keep his party in power for decades: Never hold a referendum, but leverage that notwithstanding clause and general nationalist animus to take and horde as much power in this province as possible forever. That way everything that goes wrong is because of the feds, and everything that goes right is because of the glorious CAQ.

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            Have you seen Legault’s numbers? 😂 His party is getting wiped out of Quebec come next election and the PQ will be reborn unless the Liberals elect the Messiah as their leader!

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              Glorious, I love to see it. At least the PQ pretend to be progressives when they aren’t selling out the north to foreign mining companies, restricting minority rights and generally sucking shit.

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      As much as the public sentiment is against Trudeau, voting for whoever can best prevent a Conservative majority is my pragmatic protest vote.

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        ABC is always my vote (that means green for me). This could actually be quite the opportunity for NDP/green to pick up seats. If Mr.PP really steps in it andloses support and NDP gets off their ass and gains support it wouldn’t be totally impossible to have some freaky 5-way power struggle. Probably wishful thinking, but I think with a lot of coordination and luck it could happen