• WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        Your own Wikipedia link puts alcohol dramatically lower than cocaine and heroin in terms of dependence and harm. Were you raised by alcoholics or something? If so, sorry, that sucks.

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          3 days ago

          Social harm is much higher with alcohol. There used to be a graph plotting both social and physical harm, but it got replaced with the one you criticise, effectively stating the same thing. Alcohol in its effects for both the individual and society is a hard drug, like coke, heroin or meth.

          But the way you get defensive makes me wonder why aconowledging alcohol to be a serious drug with huge damage both to individuals and society is so difficult.

      • arglebargle@lemm.ee
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        4 days ago

        “its just one glass of wine” can be equally said with “its just a small bump of coke” or “its just half an oxy”

        No, not really. Each person is different, set and setting are different, circumstances can be different.

        In any case that silly graph you posted was made by:

        “opinions and judgment of 15 researchers, doctors, and a journalist. These opinions were exchanged and discussed during a 1-day workshop” … “given that it has no input other than the experience and knowledge of the participants involved, it is unlikely to be unbiased”

        Although to be fair, the group that made that study now is advocating ways to get medical cannabis and psychedelics to people, which is more or less in line with the graph I suppose.