Summary

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich endorsed President-elect Donald Trump’s victory, stating it’s “time” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

This comes as Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu highlighted his alignment with Trump on the “Iranian threat.”

Tensions in Gaza and Lebanon have escalated following recent Israeli airstrikes, with regional leaders gathering in Riyadh to address Israeli actions.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog is set to meet President Biden, though Biden’s influence on Israel may be limited following Trump’s win.

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    I remember commenting a couple months back on one of those “Arab-Americans not voting for Harris” posts, something along the lines of “it’s your vote, but I think that you’re going to find that you’d rather have Harris than Trump” and listing some past policy moves like the embassy in Jerusalem, and then someone downvoting and responding something along the lines of “identical candidates”.

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      I’ll bet you anything that that user hasn’t posted anything in almost a week. Just a hunch.

      • Zorque@lemmy.world
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        I’ve absolutely still seen people making those arguments. It’s fuckin’ wild.

      • TheFriar@lemm.ee
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        Do you guys think lemmy is a valuable enough target to deploy bot propaganda accounts? I’m not sure I think so.

        • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
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          Like facebook, twitter, and reddit, where there is a concerted effort, that has people working on how to specifically target the people on each one, and understand the differences in their use, and users? No, of course not. Are there bots spreading national, and corporate, propaganda on lemmy? Yes. They are literally everywhere you can make posts. I am willing to bet there are tiny fora out there, with like 10 users, that occasionally sees bot spam.

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            I dunno man. I think it’s much more likely we are seeing the product of the bots. You can’t expect every single site with comments to have propaganda bots. It takes a much smaller number of bots of bots to affect a much larger number of people. Someone has to program and deploy bots to places, the bots can’t just show up anywhere and everywhere there is political conversation

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              You can totally make programs to scrape the internet for places that have posting functionality, crawl the scraped sites, and auto post. These already exist, and you can buy them, or get them shared to you from various sources. Most of these sites use template software to run their sites. It is not nearly as difficult as people might think to accomplish this. Bot traffic is 50% of internet traffic.

              Is there a group somewhere, sitting in a government facility, working on how to best infiltrate Lemmy? I really doubt it. Do these places have general function bots that make it on to lemmy, and even smaller places? Yes. In fact, bots are causing a growing number of small sites to experience what is, essentially, DOS attacks, because of how much traffic suddenly hits the site once the scrapers/auto account makers/etc. have found it.

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      And I think you will find that there has been no material difference in what “Israel” is actually doing. They’ve been ramping up occupation and violence in the West Bank for months, going in exactly this direction already. They murdered an American activist in the West Bank as part of this and swept it under the rug using the pretense of an “investigation”, remember? The West Bank is already occupied, it is already split into isolated districts, travel is already highly restricted, there are racist curfews for those who must commute to work in Israel, forced through several checkpoints and fearing jail for any delays, giving themselves 3 hour buffers for travel tine, and their government is compradors that work with the IOF to arrest and jail them and out down resistance movements.

      The main difference between Dems and GOP on Israel is that Dems feign empathy and concern while Republicans are openly racist. But materially the outcomes are actually very similar, with Dems often being worse because they can more effectively count on your lack of dissent and in coordinating with Europe.

      You might remember that there has been a US-backed genocide in Gaza for over a year, under a Dem, and they were willing to lose the election rather than stop supporting genocide.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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      I remember a couple months back when Kamala Harris swapped in for Joe Biden and her popularity peaked through the fucking roof when people thought she was going to stop the genocide.

      Then Kamala said she was going to continue the genocide and kicked Palestinians out of the DNC.

      • Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world
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        Lol. Imagine making a reductive statement to a vastly complicated topic to try and sound smart only to reveal how little you understand. On the internet no less!

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          They’re emotional but they’re also correct. Israel controls the West Bank in all but name already.

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            people don’t even bother checking what israel has been for the last year and then make statement “democrat would be better”. Israel with AIPAC own the US. They democrats government couldn’t even say ceasefire nor did Canada, France, or Germany. Democrat and Republic has different approach to China and Russia and maybe Iran, but Palestinian ? there is no way democrat would stop anything.