• PoopingCough@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    There’s also plenty of research that shows that people’s earnings reflect how happy they are, but only up to a certain point. Different studies have different numbers for that point but it’s pretty much always above the actual median income. After that the line flattens and for some even goes down. So yeah, it’s not always a direct money = happiness but you’d have to be an idiot or intentionally obtuse to say that people wouldn’t be happier if they didn’t have to agonize over how they’ll pay their bills/save for their future.

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      22 days ago

      There’s no amount of money everyone can make that’ll get us all to stop agonizing over bills. Sure, billionaires today generally don’t have that worry but that’s only because they’re richer than everyone else! If everyone was a billionaire then you’d be spending billions to pay your bills.

      What would make everyone happy is to achieve post scarcity as a society. The problem with that is that we’d then simply grow in population until scarcity came back. We’re never going to have infinite resources so that will always be possible.

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            22 days ago

            In a market economy? Government employees.

            In a communist economy? People who want to, same as they did for 100,000 years before money was invented.

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              22 days ago

              Government employees are going to take over the farms and grow all the food? That’s not a market economy.

              Furthermore if all that stuff is free then why are people still working?

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                  22 days ago

                  Yes, I’ve watched TNG, the entire series, many times. We’re not even close to that! We don’t have replicators, we don’t have starships to take us to new planets for unlimited land to settle.

                  By the way, have you ever thought about how the Picard family owns this huge wine estate in France? Not everyone in the Star Trek universe gets their own family wine estate, so Picard’s family is wealthy and privileged even in a society without money.

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                    22 days ago

                    Oh no, they have the ability to manually produce wine in a civilisation with no money, free replicators, and a synthetic form of alcohol that doesn’t give hangovers and doesn’t impair your faculties in an emergency. With such extravagant wealth, they could even… checks notes… give free alcohol to wine snobs

                    …which, to be fair, is exactly what the Picard family does with their vineyard. They devote their time and energy to making alcohol and giving it away for free. Because they’re communists.