• Plaid_Kaleidoscooe@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    On one hand, I absolutely agree with this. It’s human nature to want to avoid such a fate if one can reasonably avoid it. If I had the money and could buy my way out of participation in a fucking war…I’d hate to think that I wouldn’t.

    I know it’s their home and things like that…but not everyone cares about those sorts of ties, and they become even less meaningful in death. I’m not saying I condone their actions, just that I understand.

      • conductor@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        No, you’re wrong. Conscription is always wrong. If fighting is justified you won’t need to do it.

        • CheezyWeezle@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Cool so I can come in to your house and steal all your shit, beat up your children, and shoot your dog, and you aren’t allowed to fight back because if it was justified, you wouldn’t need to?

          EDIT: I seem to have misinterpreted the comment, as you appear to be referring to conscription being unnecessary rather than the fighting. Taking the whole context of the comment supports that, but taking only the context of the final sentence makes it appear that you are saying “if fighting is justified you dont need to fight” rather than “if fighting is justified, conscription is unnecessary”

  • dx1@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Alt-righters calling Zelenskyy corrupt and so on all day long. Look how stressed his face looks. He’s aged like 30 years since the war started.

  • deafboy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    A real crime here is the draft. And before the tankies start circling this post, it applies to russia as well.

    • Aux@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Regular draft is unacceptable. But this is not a regular draft.

  • Tedesche@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    It infuriates me that more people aren’t talking about how sexist it is that Ukraine only drafted its men. I can understand instituting a draft when your country is literally being invaded, but it should apply to all able-bodied citizens, not just men.

    • Elderos@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      To what end? Just to get woman suffer as much as men in the name of equality? Winning the war is what matters. There are plenty of strategic reasons why you might not want to include woman in a draft. You still need civilians in regular jobs, you will need to population to grow after the war, and overall most military in the world are designed by men, for men, and are extremely missadapted for woman.

    • nyoooom@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      There is a point in the fact that men are biologically more suited to fight than women. Also no one is preventing a woman to join the military.

      In the end it just sucks, no one should ever have to be drafted.