• BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    People whose main diet has always been meat are used to being able to put one thing (a cut of meat) in a pan with some seasoning and have it be the primary component of a meal that could likely satisfy on its own. Any veggies are always an accessory supplement to the meal. Maybe they enjoy them, maybe it’s for the health benefits, but they are always on the side or as a garnish and would never satisfy on their own.

    When they try to imagine omitting meat from their diet, they replace it 1-for-1 with vegetables and imagine a chunk of some vegetable (like cabbage in this instance) as the main component of meal. I’ve been to restaurants that need a token menu item for vegans/vegetarians so they serve literally what I just described and it’s always disappointing and never satisfying.

    But most vegans/vegetarians know that making a good, satisfying meal without meat goes beyond that format of one primary component with optional accessory details. It requires a little more effort and some imagination but a well constructed meal without meat is just as (if not subjectively more) satisfying/healthy/delicious as one with meat.

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    9 days ago

    I know this dude posted about cabbage as a ‘this random vegetable sounds absurd’ bit, but cabbage is fantastic sheet pan roasted.

    He’s also tattling on himself that he’s never had good vegetables, ever

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    13 days ago

    Honestly, back in undergrad there was a falafel shop just round the corner from halls. That stuff was a godsend. There’s no reliable cure for hangovers, but that falafel came close.

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      13 days ago

      As a non vegan, chips just get in the way. Fried chicken, yiros, meat pies and curry all top that list

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        13 days ago

        I mean I don’t keep vegan, either, but I party with vegans. It’s still just fried food.

        Personally? I like fried chicken or pickles.

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          13 days ago

          Never had fried pickles, i can already feel the heart burn. But onion rings, ooooh boy

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            13 days ago

            Fried pickles can either be absolutely amazing or so disappointing. You generally dip them into a non-vegan dip, however.

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              13 days ago

              Hidden Valley makes a vegan ranch dressing now, fwiw, but also I’ve made my own from a packet of ranch seasoning and blended soaked cashews and lemon juice.

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                13 days ago

                Cashew ranch is good shit. I’ve made it a few times, but I usually don’t go through it quick enough to want to make a whole batch. There’s a veg restaurant nearby that I can get smaller quantities from, though.

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              13 days ago

              Oh you’re reminding me of the fried salt and pepper eggplant I had at a Vietnamese plane… almost had me buying a deep fryer for home on the spot

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    13 days ago

    Chips (fries) are vegan unless you cooked them in an animal fat, garlic bread is pretty easy to make vegan, and cauliflower wings are banging because they’re just a vehicle giving structure to fried batter and sauce

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          13 days ago

          It looks fancy, but it’s actually pretty quick. It only takes me like 10-12m, and a lot of that is boiling the water which you can get everything else ready in.

          If I leave out the gyoza (which I steam for 3-4m once the water is boiling) then it’s even quicker.

  • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    There’s this misconception that vegan means forced healthy. It’s not. If I want to be an unhealthy vegan I will eat some pasta, bread, fries… All mixed up.

    Traditionally unhealthy stuff, all vegan. And don’t come with “you can fry with fat” no I’m from Spain not France, here we fry with virgin olive oil as a default.