• TheFonz@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Leftists: never show up to vote

    Also leftists: nothing ever gets done. Both parties must be the same

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    More info from Pew 2022 election polls:

    Age and the 2022 election Age continues to be strongly associated with voting preferences in U.S. elections. Nearly seven-in-ten voters under 30 (68%) supported Democratic candidates in 2022 – much higher than the shares of voters ages 30 to 49 (52%), 50 to 64 (44%) and 65 and older (42%) who did so. Compared with 2018, GOP candidates performed better among voters who turned out across age groups.

    Also:

    Older voters turned out more reliably in both elections – and continued to be largely loyal to Republican candidates.

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      8 months ago

      Leftists absolutely do vote, lmao. Voting won’t move America left though, because we have 2 right wing parties.

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        Leftists absolutely do vote

        No they don’t.

        In 2022, younger voters made up a smaller share of the electorate than they did in 2018. In 2022, 36% of voters were under 50, compared with 40% of voters in 2018. Decreased turnout among these more reliably Democratic voters contributed to the GOP’s better performance in November.

        Older voters turned out more reliably in both elections – and continued to be largely loyal to Republican candidates. For example, among adults ages 69 and older in 2022

        Pew Research - 2020 election

        If leftists understood how much power they have at local elections they would absolutely participate. Same goes for federal. But time and time again, they don’t bother to be active politically because of attitudes like yours.

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            8 months ago

            The numbers tell us that for the majority, that’s the case. Do you have numbers that show otherwise?

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                8 months ago

                When you say “liberal”, do you intend as something different than “left”? I just want to make sure I understand your labels. Thanks.

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                  Those terms are more or less interchangeable in UD politics at the moment as I understand it. I find the usage of the term “leftist” about as vaguely useless as the term “woke”.

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                    Ok. Then we are talking about the same group. What I’m trying to communicate is that young people, who overwhelmingly identify as liberal/left/progressive are participating less in elections. The other thread I’m responding to has all the Pew research numbers but if you’d like I can pull them here as well. If a large percentage of your electorate is absent from voting, don’t expect policy to change any time soon.

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          Youth voters do trend leftwards, but the reason for not voting isn’t because of being leftist, but because of being young.

          Find an actual source.

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            I never said people don’t vote BECAUSE they are leftist, did I? Nothing you said disagrees with what I said: left leaning people (and by inclusion: young people) tend to participate less in elections. The current political leadership represents the people that voted for them: predominantly boomers. So in that regard, politicians are doing exactly what they were elected to do. What’s so difficult to understand?

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              You gave a source that says young people are voting less, not leftists, and your conclusion was that because young people tend to be more leftist, they aren’t voting.

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                Correct: Young people are overwhelmingly left, and young people don’t tend to vote. Where is the contradiction?

                For comparison: conservatives are overwhelmingly older, and older people universally show up to vote.

                I must be stupid and maybe I’m missing something. Walk me step-by-step where is the contradiction.

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                  The statement was “leftists don’t vote,” not “young people don’t vote.” Leftists aren’t only young, and conservative youth don’t vote either.

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                    Oh, I see. We’re being pedantic with words. I guess I should have been precise in my language for people so people like you can have cause to split hairs. What I meant to say is “the majority of leftists don’t vote” and this is well researched and supported by the numbers. Does that make you feel better? It doesn’t matter if conservative youth don’t vote, since the majority of the older population skews moderate or conservative. Both conservative and left youth can stay home, but that’s how we get where we are.

                    Edit: also, it doesn’t matter if conservative youth don’t vote. Youth vote skews left. If younger people OVERALL showed up to vote we would have more progressive candidates. I think we’re really struggling with stats today.