Also SmokeSignal events https://smokesignal.events/

I saw a talk by the peole working on FrontPage last week, they use the Bluesky Relay, filter it down to only see the posts they’re interested it, and have their own AppView. It doesn’t yet have the same kind of intereoperability with Bluesky that Lemmy does with (say) Mastodon; FrontPage posts are only visible to FrontPage. But, there are discussions on how to get beyond that.

Thanks, glad you appreciate it!

Yeah. Funny how that works!

Thanks much for the detailed response … I didn’t realize the purpose of this community. Somebody had suggested I post the draft here, which I did, and now I realize that their suggestion was a snarky trap that I fell for 🤣. Oh well, joke’s on them (as well as me), I got good feedback on the draft here.

Agreed that there are structural problems with AP; I wrote about this in And it’s about the protocol, too. But even though software improvements can help, the underlying problem’s cultural.

I intentionally didn’t phrase it in terms of allyship (in fact I’m pretty sure the word “ally” doesn’t even appear in the article) … still, I don’t think white folks (me included) can stop being white, nor should we – we are who we are, and that’s okay. I do think we (again including me) can make more of an effort to deal with our default attitudes and behaviors, and try to use our privilege for good.

Thanks for pointing that out! But, I got enough pushback on the wording of point 2 that I changed it to just “Think before you post”

There’s a bit more on Mastodon then Lemmy - https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#migration has the details. But not being able to move posts is a big limitation. And even the functionality that’s implemented has some unpleasant surprises – see https://erinkissane.com/notes-from-a-mastodon-migration

You asked me to help you find the examples and I said no and suggested a technique that might work. It’s an answer, it’s just one you didn’t like. When you told me that you weren’t able to apply the technique successfully, I said

Oh well. It sounds like you’ve got some work to do. The revised version of the article has some antiracism resources, so stay tuned.

Yes, I answered your question, you just didn’t like my answer.

If you can’t find them, then (like many people) that’s a sign you’re used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?

It doesn’t make any assumptions about your ethnicity. If you are in fact a Black person who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse but isn’t seeing it in that thread, it’s still a useful suggestion to step outside yourself and try to reading it as somebody else would,

Oh well. It sounds like you’ve got some work to do. The revised version of the article has some antiracism resources, so stay tuned.

Yep, very similar dynamics.

The revised version of 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) will have (or maybe link off to) a list of examples on Lemmy – that’s why I started this thread. But, you don’t have to wait! There are multiple examples in this thread and the thread I linked to in the OP.

And yes, there are tools. I’ll have more links in the revised version, but one good place to start is Ijeoma Oluo’s Welcome To The Anti-Racism Movement — Here’s What You’ve Missed

I answered. And there are also some good examples of anti-Blackness in the comments here.

There are plenty of examples in this thread and the crossposts, and more discussion in https://lemmy.world/post/18536867

If you can’t find them, then (like many people) that’s a sign you’re used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?

I’m not saying to pour through millions of posts, this one and the one I linked to have plenty of examples.

I was agreeing with you that moderation can make a big difference in how many people see the racist posts (and defederating from instances that are known sources of racism). Still, even when moderators remove posts, people still see them – people in this thread talked about posts using “playing the race card”, inflammatory memes, and other stuff that moderators removed. So I don’t see it as moving the bar from the question of whether people have seen racism. But I certainly agree that racism that moderators don’t address is a bigger problem!

Yeah. It’s endemic in society, so there’s no reason that specific social networks are magically exempt from it.

Whatever works! lol

These are all good points (and not having anything like Mastodon’s followers-only posts removes another way to hide in obscurity). Moderators certainly got involved in some of the cross-posts of the earlier thread, at least a dozen comments were removed on beehaw and a couple people got banned from the awful.systems thread.

On the other hand, downvoting can also be used as a weapon to try to bury discussions of racism (this thread btw is at -17, the previous one is at -70).

Also somebody here mentions that “There’s currently only 1 user that I’ve noticed that keeps bringing race up.” (hiii!!!). A culture where people don’t talk about race means that whiteness is normalized and unexamined. And quite a few of the comments in this thread (saying I’m the racist, analogizing me to a “Karen”, calling me a fool) and the previous ones (“is this a joke?”, “haha”, “Lol, how is race relevant? Obv rage bait shitpost”, the one analogizing me to Hitler) are all consistent with an environment where reactions to somebody bringing up race are hostile. Almost nobody is challenging these comments, in fact they’ve got plenty of upvotes.

The previous post that I linked to is now down to -70! Discussions about racism often make people very uncomfortable. Thanks for all your responses in the thread that came from this, one of the commenters blocked me so I can’t respond directly to them, but I greatly appreciate it!