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By TSE do they mean TES. That’d still be weird considering I think more people would have had either Skyrim or Oblivion be their first entry, and not Morrowind
Yeah but even dedicated elder scrolls fans aren’t going to go back and play through arena and daggerfall. Morrowind definitely feels old but from my perspective still feels very playable and understandable from a modern context. Daggerfall and arena are a different beast entirely and are a little more intimidating for the average gamer.
Thats a fair point! I’ve loved every entry of TES since Morrowind, yet I’ve never felt the urge to play Daggerfall or the first, and I dont think I ever will
Jokes on you op. When I get into a series I always go back to the start of it.
I try to do that too. Friends think I’m crazy for starting final fantasy from the beginning.
Valve will never have this issue.
Can’t play all of them except the first two if there’s only two
I don’t know how the original Megami Tensei games were, but I’m really enjoying the Kyūyaku Megami Tensei remake on the SNES.
Edit: Wait, does the MSX game count as the original, or the FC games?
Back in the day I’d started with SMT3 and somehow never felt like going back further (1st person dungeon crawler never sounded appealing - so I’ve only ever made an exception for Strange Journey Redux).
But I feel like I’ve experienced it all first hand including the more niche entries + history thanks to Marsh. So just in case you feel curious:
I know I’m probably in the minority here, but I liked the first 2 Grand Theft Auto games on PC better than the more well known ones… They were top down view and easier to just pick up and play. The graphics were more like a 16bit era game. They were simpler games that just felt more fun to me than the giant massive games that came out later. I tried a few of the later ones but it just made me miss the originals lol
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I played them on PS1 but yeah, same. I can still hear the sound effects in my head. Killlllll frenzy!
Unpopular opinion: the psp port of Persona 1 has my favorite song from Shoji Meguro, he did a fantastic job.
Also I’m pretty sure Far Cry 2 has a very vocal fanbase, it’s very much loved.
Lone prayer is probably the best song in the entire series tbh. At the very least it’s the most underrated.
For me it’s https://youtu.be/hrcuIHp4rH0
Play The Witcher 2. Seriously.
Now TW1… shudders
I think TW3 already spoiled me all the plot of TW2.
i played 1 and 2 before 3 launched. Allowed me to appreciate the choices i made in 2, and while the plot of 1 for the most part is virtually disconnected from the rest of the series outside of Foltest, gives you appreciation for the heart of stone dlc in 3 when you revisit Shani (especially since i went the Shani route over the Triss one).
because of how disconnected 1 is as a story, it almost could be a side story as its very self contained outside of Foltest’ role inthe universe.
I feel like that sentiment only applies visually. The world and story of 1, as well as the gameplay if you accepted it was more of an RPG than an action game, felt much better than 2 did, imo, it just looked like absolute shit.
I just struggled hard with the gameplay. Some games throw up road blocks, but TW1 threw up entire mountain ranges for me. Maybe I just didn’t quite get something in the mechanics, but it felt like the game would routinely go from playable, to “die incessantly until you grind and overlevel”. A lot of the game’s difficulty felt like it was just level-gating progression blocks. Maybe I was just trying to go too fast? I admit that I may have just brute-forced my way through things that probably had a more nuanced or subtle solution.
This is also not to say that I dislike TW1 at all. I quite enjoyed it. It just frustrated me more than 2 and 3 combined.
I may be in the minority, but I went and played the first 2 Witcher games (and then the 3rd again) with the intention of seeing how CDPR grew as developers before I played Cyberpunk and I was blown away with how they have ALWAYS been good at making a game atmospheric and immersive. Yeah, the first game the whole combat experience is janky AF (but fun in its own way) and a few of the key character models (Zoltan shudder yeesh) look horrifying, but the game, story, atmosphere, and storytelling that made the Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 great were all present and noticeable in the Witchers 1 and 2
I have played the first and second witcher games! I am sure that the first one has a lot of good stuff but all I really took away was that it was weird relative to modern games and it took a lot of willpower to finish. The second game is bad fucking ass! Buuuut the difficulty scaling and overall pacing is a bit odd. For example you can play on a relatively high difficulty and the base gameplay is very reasonable and fun but the bosses are just absolutely batshit and you’ll get stuck in a loop where youre dying about 2.5 seconds after reloading endlessly edit: and if you haven’t played 3 youre missing out! It is super fun and playing on death march is actually really rewarding and fun
First one has the best Alchemy system of the three, which only got progressively worse with each entry. I also felt more satisfaction researching monsters and their strengths/weaknesses prior to encounters in 1. The other games for whatever reason didn’t quite scratch that same itch, but were obviously better in most other ways. All in all, I think I liked 1 and 3 the most.
The Witcher 1 is a pretty standard CRPG styled like the original Baldur’s Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic, etc, and all essentially running a modified Dungeons and Dragons ruleset behind the scenes.
It probably did feel a little dated because it simply was dated, even for 2007 and with some of the changes they made to keep things interesting.
However, they did show boobies, so, you know.
fkn love boobies
Persona 2 duology is better written than any other Persona game, and I think one of three games I’ve cried finishing. That’s not a “tough guy” flex, that’s just a comment on how shallow most video game writing is.
Also you can be gay and fight Hitler. Tatsuya sweep.
You can be gay and fight Hitler
More games need this feature.
It’s definitely one of my favorite games as well. I love modern Persona but a part of me is always wishing for something like P2 again…
Well it’s the most hoped for remake in Japan after Persona 3…so here’s hoping a P2 rebuild is on top of Atlus’ list now.
I love the game too, but I even hesitate to recommend it to diehards of the genre because the gameplay is so dated. I usually say to watch a YT plot only video if anyone is ever interested.
Everything except The Witcher I am a fan of because of the first 2 games.
The Witcher 3 I skipped out on because the first 2 were jank as fuck and I couldn’t actually finish either of them despite thinking the ideas and story were rad. It wasn’t until way later I gave it a shot and it was definitely a better game than the first 2, but the combat got super stale after 20 hours and that’s not even like 1/5th of the story
Witcher 3 is really a a joy, I hope you’re able to try it some day.
I don’t think the Witcher 3 is anything special at all. In fact I think the Witcher 2 is the best game of the series.
Witcher 1 best lore and most “witchery” in that planning and hunting monsters was more of a thing. Witcher 2 was great but too short and abandoned some of what made the first interesting. 3 is a totally different game with plenty of merit but it’s weird how disconnected the games feel.
Kinda like Mass Effect, honestly.
Assuming TSE is a typo (Elder Scrolls), I would say to everyone PLAY DAGGERFALL.
Also, Skate 1 and 2 are dope. 3 is great though.
Fallout 1 and 2 are the actual good ones lol
Absolutely. Daggerfall is an excellent game! It has some bugs, sure, and the procedural dungeons are sometimes broken, but it is such a fun game that really pushed what was possible in its time.
Arena is actually way more interesting than people give it credit for.
One of the most fascinating parts, and IMO one of the greatest lost features to the entire series, is that it had Terraforming.
Since the world was kinda on a grid/cell system, you could cast spells to make pits or walls, which was kinda simple for the time, but just think about it- as a strong enough spellcaster, its a viable strategy to create a pit all the way to the magma layer to avoid a martial opponent, and just sling spells at them.
Imagine if that popped in TES VI! Friggin Earthbend and yeet that Dark Brotherhood assassin to one of the moons
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Don’t touch my Far Cry 2!
Far Cry instincts is still the best.
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They pretended Insticts was a port, but as I understand it, almost nothing is actually the same. Especially with the feral powers that make instincts what it is
I liked 1 enough at the time, but 2 was a masterpiece. They get progressively more sloppy after that, pun intended.
Fallout 1 and 2 are some of my all time favorite games. Absolutely would recommend playing them.
Fallout 1 & 2 are better than Fallout 3 & 4.
This is the coldest take I’ve ever seen.
Only if you don’t count the Kiwamis as the first two.
GTA2 was cool. Never played the new stuff
GTA1 was really good too.
I played a lot of GTA London, but I’m old now
