• MoonlightFox@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    This was a nazi salute, or at least a reference to it, you can obviously see it. However, and this is where it becomes slightly problematic…

    Is it enough of a nazi salute to not work in their favor? We can easily compare Elons salute with a nazi one, just show it side by side with an actual one. But this one is obviously (you can see it on his face) meant to reference it, but it is not as explicit. The problem is that when it is called out, it is just another case of “the woke left screaming that everyone that disagrees with them is a nazi”.

    I have no idea how we should handle shit like this.

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      16 hours ago

      I was hesitant at first, but like. What the hell else is he doing? He isn’t gesturing to emphasize something he’s saying, he isn’t waving at anyone, he isn’t addressing the crowd. Literally the only thing it can reasonably be is a heil.

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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          17 hours ago

          And thats the idea. Burn you out so you just lie there until they have finished. Like a good little victim.

          Baring the opportunity to just stab the assailant: The solution of course is to make a repeatable pattern of defiance which costs you nothing of your mental capacity but makes a difference if done at scale.

          • Post about it “this is what you voted for”
          • make a list of nazi controlled companies you will never buy from again unless its life or death and share the list
          • reframe your wording and thinking: the us is a failed state, a fascist state, ruled by nazis, educate yourself on what actually happened in the third reich and educate others, start hanging the us flag upside down, use suggestive avatars on social media (careful with your surroundings).

          This all in itself wont change anything but at scale it will shift the public eye and make things better, bit by bit.

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      21 hours ago

      The difference is Bannon knows what he’s doing, while Ellonie is a moron.

      Bannon did it just half-heartedly enough to throw doubt into it when asked. Elon tried his best.