• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    I’m pointing out the first significant hurdle that needs to be overcome if we want to change anything.

    You’re just mad because you don’t want that problem solved.

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      10 hours ago

      No you’re not, you’re just complaining. If there were anything actionable or useful in your comments I wouldn’t have responded to you.

      But again, why do you think I don’t want “that problem” solved. It would benefit me for it to be solved.

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        9 hours ago

        But again, why do you think I don’t want “that problem” solved. It would benefit me for it to be solved.

        So where are your solutions? You have to have a perfect solution for everything before you admit anything is a problem, or you must shut up because reasons.

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          8 hours ago

          I’m working in real life to organize which is a hell of a lot more useful than trying to demoralize progressives online. I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

          Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

          Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Get a gun (or two) and learn how to use them. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing. Put in the work instead of suppressing people who are on your side.

          https://www.dsausa.org/

          https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/

          https://socialistra.org/

          https://generalstrikeus.com/

          https://afsc.org/news/how-create-mutual-aid-network

          https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/raids/

          https://mutualaidhub.org/

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            7 hours ago

            Ok, and how will becoming a prepper get the party to start holding trustworthy primaries?

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              7 hours ago

              That’s what you took from that entire statement?

              OK then, I think I’ve discovered the problem. Have a nice day.

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                7 hours ago

                OK then, I think I’ve discovered the problem.

                Yeah, I’m not willing to pretend that untrustworthy primaries are trustworthy, and you consider that a problem.

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                  7 hours ago

                  If arguing against strawmen makes you feel good then you can continue doing that. I know righteousness feels good but you’re completely missing the point.

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                    7 hours ago

                    I pointed out a problem. I admit I don’t know a solution for it, but I consider the party’s lack of credibility to be the most immediate problem it needs to overcome in order to pose a serious threat to republicans.

                    So, I asked what your solution was, and you were like “I organize! Be a prepper! Mutual aid!” None of which actually address the problem we were talking about.

                    How do we restore trust in democratic primaries? I mean, besides telling anyone who notices the problem to shut up?