I was watching Sanders on The Colbert Report and was thinking what the timeline would look like if he hadn’t gotten fucked over by the “It’s Her Turn” team in 2016. I made myself sad because I think we’d be about half an Overton Window back towards sanity.
I looked at Gore’s congressional record in the years after the election. The guy is one of the most genuine public servants ever in federal office. He didn’t invent the Internet, but he did create a key piece of legislation that led to the Internet as we know it. Few other politicians at the time would have ever thought to bother.
I don’t know what his hypothetical presidency would have been like, exactly. Political pressures often force you to set aside idealism. That may not have allowed his post-election advocacy for global warming to be quite so prominent. What I do know is that we’d likely be in a better place as a nation if he had been in office.
oh, I am also “applying current feelings to a prior time” - I voted for Bush in 2000. I think I voted McCain in 2008 too? Or maybe Palin scared me away, I can’t remember. I had also just moved, maybe I missed that election.
I thought about this the other day. Remember, Joe Lieberman was his running mate which is so often a springboard to run for POTUS. Maybe we would’ve gotten Obama in 2008 anyway, maybe we would’ve gotten the guy who would later kill the public option to healthcare reform, or maybe we would’ve gotten an entirely different timeline with a different POTUS in 2008 and beyond.
Yes, there are DEFINITELY some big things we would’ve gained in the early 00s if Gore were in the White House on 9/11 instead. But I’m so unsure of what the ripple effects would be and if they’d be good
I may be wrong but if Lieberman hadn’t been a senator anymore he probably wouldn’t’ve been beholden to the insurance lobby in CT.
The guys still a price of shit that fucked up a much better health plan though for sure. I lived in MA before and after Romney care, and even that was better than what we ended up with.
I was watching Sanders on The Colbert Report and was thinking what the timeline would look like if he hadn’t gotten fucked over by the “It’s Her Turn” team in 2016. I made myself sad because I think we’d be about half an Overton Window back towards sanity.
or do you go back to 2000 with the “if Gore won”
Gore did win.
Yup. Gore won and it was stolen because of some hanging chads.
Don’t forget the pregnant Chads
IDK, I was there. Gore seemed like a pompous buffoon then, but he still had to be better than Mission Accomplished.
I looked at Gore’s congressional record in the years after the election. The guy is one of the most genuine public servants ever in federal office. He didn’t invent the Internet, but he did create a key piece of legislation that led to the Internet as we know it. Few other politicians at the time would have ever thought to bother.
I don’t know what his hypothetical presidency would have been like, exactly. Political pressures often force you to set aside idealism. That may not have allowed his post-election advocacy for global warming to be quite so prominent. What I do know is that we’d likely be in a better place as a nation if he had been in office.
oh, I am also “applying current feelings to a prior time” - I voted for Bush in 2000. I think I voted McCain in 2008 too? Or maybe Palin scared me away, I can’t remember. I had also just moved, maybe I missed that election.
We’d have a lock box.
Which really was just a proposal to have social security taxes be used for social security.
But Darrell Hammond saying lockbox sticks in the mind.
I thought about this the other day. Remember, Joe Lieberman was his running mate which is so often a springboard to run for POTUS. Maybe we would’ve gotten Obama in 2008 anyway, maybe we would’ve gotten the guy who would later kill the public option to healthcare reform, or maybe we would’ve gotten an entirely different timeline with a different POTUS in 2008 and beyond.
Yes, there are DEFINITELY some big things we would’ve gained in the early 00s if Gore were in the White House on 9/11 instead. But I’m so unsure of what the ripple effects would be and if they’d be good
I may be wrong but if Lieberman hadn’t been a senator anymore he probably wouldn’t’ve been beholden to the insurance lobby in CT.
The guys still a price of shit that fucked up a much better health plan though for sure. I lived in MA before and after Romney care, and even that was better than what we ended up with.