And the rest of the world is signing on for it. We’ve had enough of “Muricans” giving orders. Let’s all take these arrogant bastards down

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    I actually don’t think China will be a significant benefactor for the US imposed power vacuum. Frankly, their economy is going to shit and they just don’t have anything to fill in the bottom that’s falling out. Apparently it’s starting to look like their population is only a third of what they claimed it to be, and most of their factories are shutting down. Their ghost cities are now not even being completed as everybody’s three generations investments are becoming worth less than the dirt it was built on. Even the refugees illegally entering the US through the Mexico boarder last year were majority Chinese.

    Russia as well is now a borderline third world country, and the middle east is falling apart with decades of infighting and hate, not to mention that the oil they funded everything with is becoming harder and harder to sell between the green transition and Canada entering their markets as we pull out of the US.

    Amazingly, I think that the stagnating EU is going to be the greatest benefactors of this power vacuum, if for no other reason than that nobody else is in a position to take advantage. Maybe Rwanda or another African nation can fill in the gap with how some of them are modernizing at an incredible pace, but considering all the wars they are fighting, not to mention that Rwanda is participating in another genocide right now, I have little expectations there for the next decade or two. South-east Asia and India stands a far better chance of becoming major world powers in that time, but they have their own internal problems to get over before having the power and influence on a world level.

    So yea, EU is likely the next world leader and potentially the sole super power as the US crumbles under the weight of a rotting orange.

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      Frankly, their economy is going to shit and they just don’t have anything to fill in the bottom that’s falling out.

      That is simply not reality. Global manufacturing center. Even with slowdown/flat housing sector, they’ve managed 5% growth just from manufacturing. Low debt. Everything else you said is outdated and false, IMO, and just part of desperate smear propaganda we are fed continuously.

      China’s opportunity is to subsidize its consumer sector inviting nations that want to be friendly to it to export. Asia is low hanging fruit. Europe has luxury and alcohol, airplanes, but also well made status cars.

      Big mistake for Canada to shut out China based on US smears and hatred. EU does not lead without extensive cooperation with China, or warmongering against Russia. China can treat EU better than US, but deprogramming from Russophobia and Sinophobia just seems so far away, that them choosing to be 52nd state is closer to overton window despite US attacks.

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        I really wonder which of us is deluded by propaganda.

        Putting aside the fact that I seriously doubt that 5% declared is rooted in reality, there is zero doubt that the Chinese population is drowning in debt. When it takes a half decade of work just to put a down payment for a home, and they have hundreds of millions of home units verifiably existing, and entire cities of completed homes with only a small fraction of which are being used, with evidence of such popping up all the time, saying that the population isn’t in a desperate financial situation is ludicrous.

        I do agree that Asia is a low hanging fruit, but that’s mostly India and southeast Asia. China has no ability to import anything beyond base commodities and any decent scale. Just look at their stock markets and how they’re all wildly fluctuating like a gambling addict at a craps table. Not to mention that many of their greatest corporations are either going under or fleeing the country.

        Foxconn of all companies have mostly moved out have set up base in India and the Philippines. Not to mention the top five construction companies are all going under with debts in the billions.

        And if that’s not enough for you, what about all the refugees that are crossing over from Colombia? That the US declared last year that Chinese made up the greatest single group seeking asylum via one of the world’s most dangerous migration paths.

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          doubt that 5% declared is rooted in reality

          Been 20 years of smears repeating it after every quarter. 8%+ electricity growth is consistent with 5% gdp growth.

          When it takes a half decade of work just to put a down payment for a home

          Seems much worse here. Policy for abundance is what makes China successful. Our corruption needs to project winning, being better, in order to protect our corruption.

          what about all the refugees that are crossing over from Colombia? That the US declared last year that Chinese made up the greatest single group seeking asylum via one of the world’s most dangerous migration paths.

          I don’t know about that. But a Chinese policy to promote stability is that permission is required to move to a new province. While every province wealth/growth is very strong, with poorer provinces growing faster through subsidy/investment, there may still be the opportunity seeking that you describe. OTOH, it could all be another lie.