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It’s CSA.
I’m intrigued by your answer, I feel like you have some articles to share.
Sorry to disappoint. I’m just giving my thoughts.
"And spanking IS sexual abuse.
“While the buttocks is not a sexual organ, it is a sexual part of the body, similar to women’s breasts. Children are not sexually mature, but that does not mean they are incapable of feeling sexual sensations. Spanking can greatly interfere with a child’s sexual development, modesty, and their understanding of bodily autonomy. Spanking an adult would be considered a sexual offense and it should be the same for children.”.
This is just an opinion piece. I read a much better piece about it before, but I’m having trouble tracking it down.
I don’t necessarily agree that spanking is always sexual abuse, but there are accepted practices in modern evangelical Christianity centered around spanking that very much are.
I’ll read the article, and I’m disturbed yet intrigued what practices you mean
The bit I quoted was basically the whole thing here, I wish I could find the one I’m thinking of!
The “focus on the family” style punishment focuses on telling the child that you’re doing it for their own good, that you’re purging their badness through pain, and focuses only on ritualized spanking on the buttocks.
Moving corporal punishment from a thing done in anger - like cuffing a child in anger (which is still awful) - to a thing done calmly, for “love” and “holy purpose” twists it into a whole other thing. There’s a lot of weirdness with shame, nudity or forced disrobing, and pain that gets dredged up there.
Makes sense. Pisses me off that corporal punishment was ever seen as acceptable, especially today still.
Yeah, it’s really fucked up.
useless.
Useless and fucked up
should only be used on adults who think they should be allowed to hit children
I don’t see a need for it
When I had braces as a kid, my mum would hit me with a wooden spoon in the mouth, because the braces would cut my cheeks and wouldn’t leave a visible mark. Corporal punishment is never about punishment, it’s about cruelty and adults unable to control their temper and violent impulses towards those who can’t fight back.
Hate it. Pretty sure its why I dont like to be touched, or be physically close, hugs, etc., among other things I struggle with, like mental health.
If I ever see my dad again I’m going to beat the dogshit out of him 😊 what goes around comes around 🤷🏿♂️
I think Corporals need to get punished if they break the rules. People of higher ranks need to be held accountable to the rules just like lower rank soldiers. I’m in favor of general punishment as well.
I’m willing to accept that it may be necessary, but I also think it is overused. IMO it should be a last resort.
I don’t see a good argument for it needing to exist.
Lenin banned it for a reason
Should be illegal and considered child abuse
It is in my country
I think there has been some cases with American evangelical psychos living in Norway being very butthurt and very loud because Norwegian authorities takes child abuse seriously and stepped in to protect their children.
Same, but that law is not enforced at all.
Researchwise, it can be as effective as other disciplinary choices in preventing behaviour but has a higher chance of trauma, hatred of parents etc. So there’s no real reason to keep it in a parents toolbox. Ethically, no. Kids are still people, just inexperienced and vulnerable and largely unable to care for themselves. If you consider other people who fill that category, we don’t want to build a society where we treat those people like that.
Reflecting on the circumstances where corporal punishment was meted out to me and other kids I knew, it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you’d want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community.
I wish. I remember reading the manifesto and then looking further into the communist views on family, and I feel like communism clicked so hard so fast for me, because it reflected the views I already had, which helped prune my defeatism from existing in an uncaring world into wishing to fight for what the world can be, as proven by AES countries.
it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you’d want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid
This, so much this- either that, or they’d just be taking out their frustrations from life on their kids. A lot of people do that.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
Marx’s call for the abolition of the bourgeois family comes to mind. Children all too often are still treated as property, and exploited, abused, and controlled as such, even in the west.
Unfortunately, I feel like this is one of those things that would change quite slowly post-revolution
