fucked up question, I know - but ultimately it’s a question about suffering and experience of personhood - did “you” really experience the torture for an hour if you don’t remember it later?

What about the hour where you were awake and present, before the memory is wiped? How much does that suffering matter? Does the fact that after the torture you won’t remember override the suffering you will experience in the present during the torture, relative to suffering you will remember the rest of your life?

  • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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    oh, I apply lidocaine before electrolysis and laser appointments, it’s more a problem with laser than electrolysis though because any contamination on the skin can cause the laser to burn you - you have to clean all the lidocaine off the skin really well right before the appointment. (A challenging task with lots of areas covered, while on lots of drugs.)

    I find the lidocaine is more effective if I put it on hours in advance (very dangerous, if enough gets into your bloodstream you can die), and ultimately with electrolysis it’s not better than nothing but not as effective as I would like. Meanwhile, lots of my laser sessions are relatively easy now as the combination of fewer hairs and lidocaine result in much less pain.

    To be honest, the pain after electrolysis and laser both are basically nothing, I would rate it as a 1 - 2 / 10 at most. It’s like having a light sunburn, or some general swelling and discomfort - I wouldn’t bother with lidocaine for that (or recommend it to anyone).

    Doctors and physical therapists have consistently told me that I have a high pain tolerance, so I underestimated the pain involved in hair removal, and that was a mistake.

    And wow, that is way out in the boonies. I’m not sure you’re really missing out on anything with kratom anyway, so I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it - more just curious if you had any experiences to share.

    I wonder what opiates would be like for the hair removal session, I haven’t heard much about people using them but I would feel 100% justified in using them for that level of pain.

    It’s good to have your perspective to confirm opiates are the only reliable option, that pretty much accords with my experiences unfortunately.

    Hope your daily pain isn’t too bad, it’s upsetting to hear you have chronic pain. 😰

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      Eh, I’ve adapted to the pain mostly. Thank you though,for caring :)

      Most days, I can just “box” the pain and shove it in a corner of my mind. As long as I don’t do anything too stupid, it stays there and my conscious mind pretends it doesn’t exist. A little Tylenol and the threshold for it rises. There’s days it either just won’t go in the box, or breaks loose without any provocation, but I’ve got an incredible family and group of friends that help me keep things going on those days. Lucky as hell.

      And, I would agree with your providers. If electrolysis is a 1-2 for you on the acute scale, your tolerance is good. Well, or mine is bad. I had a little test patch done as moral support, and it felt like a second degree burn for me, which is a solid five or six on my end. Everyone perceives things a little different, obviously, and burns tend to bother me more than some people. I once had a small burn almost to the bone, and I was just curled up screaming and crying. The spot was maybe a half centimeter across, but it felt like my whole hand was lit up.