NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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      2 days ago

      I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.

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        14 hours ago

        That’s not enough in politics, sadly.

        Politics is war by other means. It’s every bit as complex and strategic, it’s just not as obvious.

        The NDP has been lost in the wilderness as a party for a long time. They’ve spent far too much energy and credibility complaining about vote-splitting and electoral reform. They haven’t done the serious work to present themselves as a credible alternative to the Liberals, the way Jack Layton did.

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        He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it’s defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.

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          Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let’s talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)

          But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you’d expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.

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            100% glass ceiling. He gained quite a bit of popularity in 2021 because of how charismatic he is. I think a lot of people aren’t willing to admit it, but Canada just isn’t ready for a PM that looks like him (or rather, that doesn’t look like previous PMs).

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          2 days ago

          I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn’t t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.

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            8 hours ago

            trump had branding before he became president, so that pretty much helped him.

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                2 days ago

                It’s clear he hasn’t resonated with voters since the start and he kept going until the party lost party status

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                  Ok that’s more like it. And I agree with you. He was a nice guy, but we needed someone more feisty, more aggressive, at the head of the NDP.

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                    23 hours ago

                    As an NDP supporter I’m actually incredibly angry that he didn’t step down ages ago and let someone else take the reins. Imagine if Charlie Angus was in charge. Now we have no party.

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      While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It’s like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

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        rarely any actual constructive or original ideas

        My mom’s getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.

        They need to come up with their own identity

        They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.

        instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

        You confusing the orange with the blue?

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        I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

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        I agree that bashing other parties is useless but everybody does it. For weird reason the critisism only is given to NPD.

        There is no such thing as original ideas in politics. Every ideas was proposed in other elections over the world.