US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump’s return
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The world is more divided than ever, but there’s still something (nearly) everyone agrees on: The U.S. is unloved.
  • LarmyOfLone@lemm.eeEnglish
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    56 minutes ago

    China is authoritarian, but if you look only at the material conditions for democracy like prosperity, peace, education they are better than the US. People fundamentally want to exist and raise families in peace without constant terror, confusion and economic hardship. That is because even they are authoritarian, they can still “afford” to have pro-human or pro-national ideology. In the neoliberal countries choosing that over profit gets you fired or sidelined.

  • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    16 hours ago

    One of these states hasn’t been in a foreign conflict in 45 years, the other drops 45 bombs a day

    The fact that it’s taken this long to cross shows you the power of cultural dominance in distorting objective reality(and that polls methodology can be manipulated to basically make any point those running it want)

    • entwine413@lemm.eeEnglish
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      9 hours ago

      Being involved in a foreign conflict is pretty unlikely to be a deciding factor.

      It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s, and we used to be good trading partners.

      • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        9 hours ago

        I suppose it’s up to your defintion of ‘deciding factor’ but to think the US’s invasions of sovereign countries resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilians deaths over the past few decades and support for ongoing genocide isn’t tiping the scales is misguided at best

        It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s

        source? I’ve never seen reliable evidence(outside of easily disproven Zenz’s inventions) that China’s rights abuses match those committed by the US in Guantaumo, Abu Graib etc in scale and severity

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/29/abu-zubaydah-cia-torture-waterboarding-guantanamo

          • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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            2 hours ago

            So no source?

            Facts(UN investigations, photo and video evidence, I can provide sources on request) show that the US has committed far worse rights abuses than china(sexual assault at Abu Ghraib, extreme torture at both and murder and Guantanamo and numerous black-sites, extraordinary rendition etc)

            This proves my point about US cultural dominance distorting objective reality: despite facts showing the US committing far more severe human rights abuses you still believe China has committed worse because that is what media you consume portrays

          • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            9 hours ago

            China is pretty bad, but I feel the US never gets called out for this, so he has a good point.

            • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              6 hours ago

              Unfortunately I don’t think that person would ever be open to revaluating their preconceived worldview when presented with new facts, and are comforted by believing the ra-ra americana fairytale sold by Hollywood etc even if objective reality shows it to be false, I actually think they illustrates my point about cultural dominance from my first comment quite well

              • entwine413@lemm.eeEnglish
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                1 hour ago

                You’re wrong. The USA is a shit hole country rife with human rights violations.

                But China is absolutely worse.