• ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    21 hours ago

    One of these states hasn’t been in a foreign conflict in 45 years, the other drops 45 bombs a day

    The fact that it’s taken this long to cross shows you the power of cultural dominance in distorting objective reality(and that polls methodology can be manipulated to basically make any point those running it want)

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      15 hours ago

      Being involved in a foreign conflict is pretty unlikely to be a deciding factor.

      It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s, and we used to be good trading partners.

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        15 hours ago

        I suppose it’s up to your defintion of ‘deciding factor’ but to think the US’s invasions of sovereign countries resulting in hundreds of thousands of civilians deaths over the past few decades and support for ongoing genocide isn’t tiping the scales is misguided at best

        It’s taken this long because the US’s human rights violations haven’t been as bad as China’s

        source? I’ve never seen reliable evidence(outside of easily disproven Zenz’s inventions) that China’s rights abuses match those committed by the US in Guantaumo, Abu Graib etc in scale and severity

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/29/abu-zubaydah-cia-torture-waterboarding-guantanamo

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            8 hours ago

            So no source?

            Facts(UN investigations, photo and video evidence, I can provide sources on request) show that the US has committed far worse rights abuses than china(sexual assault at Abu Ghraib, extreme torture at both and murder and Guantanamo and numerous black-sites, extraordinary rendition etc)

            This proves my point about US cultural dominance distorting objective reality: despite facts showing the US committing far more severe human rights abuses you still believe China has committed worse because that is what media you consume portrays

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              7 hours ago

              Did I ever say the US government didn’t commit human rights violations? Don’t put words in my mouth.

              Also, China has had organ harvesting concentration camps for a while now. They also allow working conditions that are so shitty factories have to install anti-suicide nets.

              China is by no means the good guy just because the US is a bad guy.

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            14 hours ago

            China is pretty bad, but I feel the US never gets called out for this, so he has a good point.

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              11 hours ago

              Unfortunately I don’t think that person would ever be open to revaluating their preconceived worldview when presented with new facts, and are comforted by believing the ra-ra americana fairytale sold by Hollywood etc even if objective reality shows it to be false, I actually think they illustrates my point about cultural dominance from my first comment quite well

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                7 hours ago

                You’re wrong. The USA is a shit hole country rife with human rights violations.

                But China is absolutely worse.