Multiple injuries were reported at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Berlin commemorating the Nakba and criticizing Israel on Thursday. Police and politicians have condemned the violence.
According to the police, one officer was dragged into the crowd, forced to the ground and trampled on. The 36-year-old reportedly suffered severe injuries to his upper body, including a broken arm, and remains in the hospital.
Just your friendly neighbourhood demonstration. Nothing to see here, move along.
Just look for “police violence palestine protests berlin” and you will find countless of videos of cops beating up people for no reason, using excessive force, beating up people already on the ground and in custody, choking people unconcious. There was a small outcry about a year ago when videos emerged of cops randomly shoving a women outside any group of people to the fround and another video of a cop throwing a women around by her neck, a move that could have easily broke her neck and killed her.
Also the police is notorious for lying about attacks on officers, so the claim he would have been “dragged into the crowd” should be taken with a big grain of salt, unless there is video evidence of it. I think it is more probable that he fell over when the police stormed in and his colleagues retreated. And well when you keep punching, kicking, body slamming and choking people, there could come a point when they loose their cool.
For demonstrations in Berlin police has been looking to escalate violence to discredit protests at every possibility over the past years. Human rights and civil rights organizations are criticising increasing repressions against demonstrations especially increasing police violence. Aside from protests for the rights of Palestinians climate protests are particular targets. Berlins police uses violence against women and minors in particular because they know it is a reliable way to escalate violence.
On thursday Berlins police already banned the demonstration from moving at all. Police came with two water throwers and 600 officers to begin with. They were out for blood.
Some scences from thursday and other prtests over the past year and a half. Note that his is not even the tip of the iceberg.
To add to that. This is not a Gaza-Israel problem, but a Berlin police being especially violent against any sort of left leaning protest. They were extremely hard on climate protest before that. Part of that being a lawful conviction for using a pain grip.
Just so you’re aware, in case you don’t understand, you don’t have to do everything you’re allowed to do. In fact, often you shouldn’t, especially if you’re a cop. Cops should try to keep peaceful and calm situations down, and protect people from harm. Just because they’re allowed to cause harm instead and increase tensions doesn’t mean they should.
Does the arrest need to be legitimate or is it enough for police to want to arrest someone for no reason and then beat down everyone who isnt jumping to the side right away? I am asking because often many more arrests are made than people being charged after. And then charges often get thrown out in court.
How did shoving that women from the back relate to any arrest when she was clearly away from other protestors? If the goal was to arrest her, there were plenty of cops arround who could have surrounded her and arrested her without violence. Or beating the shit out of the teenage boy who tried to defuse between the men and the cop?
ah yes the classic “you made me repeatedly punch you in the face because I was afraid in my full body riot armor” - good to know the brave solders defending a genocide have loyal supporters on lemmy as well 🫶
The police could learn to keep their distance and stop instigating violence. If you push people they’ll push back. If you’re armed expect them to not give you a chance to use your weapon.
The lesson here is let people do their peaceful protesting and you won’t necessitate violence.
This isn’t a right-wing protest, this crowd doesn’t want violence, it wants to be heard. This crowd is willing to use violence to ensure it’s right to be heard is preserved.
Until I can see some evidence that the unarmed crowd instigated violence against the armed police I’m going to consider the armed police to be the instigators since they showed up armed and then approached a crowd of people who were voicing their opinion.
“The police could learn to keep their distance…” that is not how it works in Germany.
The police has the force monopoly. You do what the police says or you get in trouble. They are fair (most of the time, I experienced 2 or 3 exceptions myself throughout my life). Most of the time you will get another chance.
I was also on protests and demos myself. They are not doing anything to the crowd except something is going wrong, like:
Demonstrants not taking the pathway they should be taking like planned.
“not how it works in Germany” we ain’t talking laws, we talking morality. We are talking how things should be. Laws are irrelevant to morality and if that’s your argument then you are lost.
And I am talking about reality.
If the police don’t bring order to the chaos, we will have a bad time in this country.
As I already said, I got in trouble myself, sometimes for nothing. It is what it is, back in the time I was furious too. But now I see that it was necessary.
Why is a protest for Palestina here even necessary? Or even for Israel? I give a frick about both of these countries. They are thousands of miles away and not even on the European continent.
I don’t support this kind of extremism.
People from Palestina have a bad time in their country, ok. Then they come here to Germany. ok. They get support and can live in peace. ok. Then they make trouble in Berlin. What the frick? Are you dumb? Enjoy the peaceful life we built here.
Go protest in some country that is adjacent to Palestina. Turkey or Egypt or Syria. Or Quatar, I don’t care.
According to the police, one officer was dragged into the crowd, forced to the ground and trampled on. The 36-year-old reportedly suffered severe injuries to his upper body, including a broken arm, and remains in the hospital.
Just your friendly neighbourhood demonstration. Nothing to see here, move along.
Armed gang of men show up to a peaceful protest to commit violence and are surprised when they are retaliated against. Gtfo
Just look for “police violence palestine protests berlin” and you will find countless of videos of cops beating up people for no reason, using excessive force, beating up people already on the ground and in custody, choking people unconcious. There was a small outcry about a year ago when videos emerged of cops randomly shoving a women outside any group of people to the fround and another video of a cop throwing a women around by her neck, a move that could have easily broke her neck and killed her.
Also the police is notorious for lying about attacks on officers, so the claim he would have been “dragged into the crowd” should be taken with a big grain of salt, unless there is video evidence of it. I think it is more probable that he fell over when the police stormed in and his colleagues retreated. And well when you keep punching, kicking, body slamming and choking people, there could come a point when they loose their cool.
For demonstrations in Berlin police has been looking to escalate violence to discredit protests at every possibility over the past years. Human rights and civil rights organizations are criticising increasing repressions against demonstrations especially increasing police violence. Aside from protests for the rights of Palestinians climate protests are particular targets. Berlins police uses violence against women and minors in particular because they know it is a reliable way to escalate violence.
On thursday Berlins police already banned the demonstration from moving at all. Police came with two water throwers and 600 officers to begin with. They were out for blood.
Some scences from thursday and other prtests over the past year and a half. Note that his is not even the tip of the iceberg.
https://youtube.com/shorts/h_gjZdx4MqU
https://youtube.com/shorts/wDFKlXoqeXg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c6Jlj8shfVM
https://youtube.com/shorts/s0q0zd8t5fo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=exRIsj73QUQ
To add to that. This is not a Gaza-Israel problem, but a Berlin police being especially violent against any sort of left leaning protest. They were extremely hard on climate protest before that. Part of that being a lawful conviction for using a pain grip.
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And it doesn’t have to be a protest for Palestinians for police to use excessive force, just look up how they treated stuttgart 21 protesters
Ah, playing the victim role? I know that one from Palestinian protesters already. Show me something new.
You’re losing
Go to hell Zionist trash.
That less victim-y for you?
nice tightly edited clips with no context
as you know a lot of standard palestinian chants are regarded as racist and illegal in germany that compels the police to act
Compels them to smack women to the ground? Compels them to beat people square in the face with heavy gloves?
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You changed your wording from compelled to allowed. Are they compelled to do this?
Already retreating your wording and moving the goalposts. I see you though.
Probably another right-wing troll.
i am compelled to answer you and allowed to call you a fool
Just so you’re aware, in case you don’t understand, you don’t have to do everything you’re allowed to do. In fact, often you shouldn’t, especially if you’re a cop. Cops should try to keep peaceful and calm situations down, and protect people from harm. Just because they’re allowed to cause harm instead and increase tensions doesn’t mean they should.
what happened to the wordsmith?
they were funny
Does the arrest need to be legitimate or is it enough for police to want to arrest someone for no reason and then beat down everyone who isnt jumping to the side right away? I am asking because often many more arrests are made than people being charged after. And then charges often get thrown out in court.
How did shoving that women from the back relate to any arrest when she was clearly away from other protestors? If the goal was to arrest her, there were plenty of cops arround who could have surrounded her and arrested her without violence. Or beating the shit out of the teenage boy who tried to defuse between the men and the cop?
post the full video with the full context and we’ll find out
ah yes the classic “you made me repeatedly punch you in the face because I was afraid in my full body riot armor” - good to know the brave solders defending a genocide have loyal supporters on lemmy as well 🫶
Good “centrist” Germans and bootlicking, name a more classic combo
The police could learn to keep their distance and stop instigating violence. If you push people they’ll push back. If you’re armed expect them to not give you a chance to use your weapon.
The lesson here is let people do their peaceful protesting and you won’t necessitate violence.
This isn’t a right-wing protest, this crowd doesn’t want violence, it wants to be heard. This crowd is willing to use violence to ensure it’s right to be heard is preserved.
Until I can see some evidence that the unarmed crowd instigated violence against the armed police I’m going to consider the armed police to be the instigators since they showed up armed and then approached a crowd of people who were voicing their opinion.
“The police could learn to keep their distance…” that is not how it works in Germany. The police has the force monopoly. You do what the police says or you get in trouble. They are fair (most of the time, I experienced 2 or 3 exceptions myself throughout my life). Most of the time you will get another chance.
I was also on protests and demos myself. They are not doing anything to the crowd except something is going wrong, like: Demonstrants not taking the pathway they should be taking like planned.
“not how it works in Germany” we ain’t talking laws, we talking morality. We are talking how things should be. Laws are irrelevant to morality and if that’s your argument then you are lost.
And I am talking about reality. If the police don’t bring order to the chaos, we will have a bad time in this country. As I already said, I got in trouble myself, sometimes for nothing. It is what it is, back in the time I was furious too. But now I see that it was necessary.
Why is a protest for Palestina here even necessary? Or even for Israel? I give a frick about both of these countries. They are thousands of miles away and not even on the European continent.
I don’t support this kind of extremism. People from Palestina have a bad time in their country, ok. Then they come here to Germany. ok. They get support and can live in peace. ok. Then they make trouble in Berlin. What the frick? Are you dumb? Enjoy the peaceful life we built here.
Go protest in some country that is adjacent to Palestina. Turkey or Egypt or Syria. Or Quatar, I don’t care.
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