Multiple injuries were reported at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Berlin commemorating the Nakba and criticizing Israel on Thursday. Police and politicians have condemned the violence.
Why does Hamas get to decide what the slogan means? Psychos in the US are using the punisher logo, does that mean that Marvel is promoting what they do?
Part of freedom is to not relent when you are being told to shut up, to change your message, to obey. If you are fighting for the freedom of oppressed people and the cessation of violence against innocents, and the people hearing you say “stop saying that, say something else”, you don’t obey, you say it harder until they listen to what you’re actually, clearly stating: all people deserve freedom and a life without violence.
Yes, it totally does work like that. The punisher logo is tainted, esp. because psychos in the USA are using it. The swastika is not the good luck symbol it was before the nazis started using it. Nordic runes are awesome, but if you tattoo runes on yourself, people will think that you are a neonazi. That sucks, but the world really does work like that.
And I have to disagree with you: The “from the river to the sea” slogan can and will bei misunderstood or maybe it does exactly what people are thinking: Advocating a violent destruction of Israel and a deportation or murdering of its citizen. I do not know, but seriously, if you want to advocate for “freedom and a life without violence”, maybe use a slogan that can’t be misunderstood as advocating for murdering people? It’s easy.
I’d say symbols are a constant negotiation between meanings. The swastika is lost, but other symbols like Nordic runes are only fully lost if we surrender them. We must fight to insist on the meaning of the symbols not yet lost to evil.
“From the river to the sea; Palestine will be free.” This is the slogan I hear. I hear no violence in these words, only a call for freedom for all Palestinians in what used to be Palestine. I can’t help but think that the misunderstanding of this slogan is willful.
If this slogan is surrendered to evil, how long before the accusations start against the next slogan? Is waving a Palestinian flag the same as condoning terrorism? Is saying the word “genocide” an act of aggression against Israel? Shouldn’t we defend that when we call for freedom, we mean that and just that? And refuse those who would make such a simple call for freedom illegal and associated with evil?
We can be part of controlling the meaning of these things, not only evil can do that.
Why does Hamas get to decide what the slogan means? Psychos in the US are using the punisher logo, does that mean that Marvel is promoting what they do?
Part of freedom is to not relent when you are being told to shut up, to change your message, to obey. If you are fighting for the freedom of oppressed people and the cessation of violence against innocents, and the people hearing you say “stop saying that, say something else”, you don’t obey, you say it harder until they listen to what you’re actually, clearly stating: all people deserve freedom and a life without violence.
Yes, it totally does work like that. The punisher logo is tainted, esp. because psychos in the USA are using it. The swastika is not the good luck symbol it was before the nazis started using it. Nordic runes are awesome, but if you tattoo runes on yourself, people will think that you are a neonazi. That sucks, but the world really does work like that.
And I have to disagree with you: The “from the river to the sea” slogan can and will bei misunderstood or maybe it does exactly what people are thinking: Advocating a violent destruction of Israel and a deportation or murdering of its citizen. I do not know, but seriously, if you want to advocate for “freedom and a life without violence”, maybe use a slogan that can’t be misunderstood as advocating for murdering people? It’s easy.
I’d say symbols are a constant negotiation between meanings. The swastika is lost, but other symbols like Nordic runes are only fully lost if we surrender them. We must fight to insist on the meaning of the symbols not yet lost to evil.
“From the river to the sea; Palestine will be free.” This is the slogan I hear. I hear no violence in these words, only a call for freedom for all Palestinians in what used to be Palestine. I can’t help but think that the misunderstanding of this slogan is willful.
If this slogan is surrendered to evil, how long before the accusations start against the next slogan? Is waving a Palestinian flag the same as condoning terrorism? Is saying the word “genocide” an act of aggression against Israel? Shouldn’t we defend that when we call for freedom, we mean that and just that? And refuse those who would make such a simple call for freedom illegal and associated with evil?
We can be part of controlling the meaning of these things, not only evil can do that.