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So now we can legally buy fully automatic machine guns, but not a lifesaving miracle of medical science, that we all paid for.
Republicans are a death cult, through and through.
This alarmist and factually dubious fear mongering is part of what is hurting the Democrats and the left in the US. Binary triggers do not turn a firearm into a “fully automatic machine gun”. What they do is cause the gun to fire on both the trigger pull and the trigger reset. This allows the shooter to fire very quickly, but not as fast as a true automatic weapon. Machine gun, and assault rifle both have specific legal definitions that hinge on the firearm firing multiple rounds with one trigger action. A standard trigger has two actions for every trigger pull - the pull and the reset. This is why these devices are technically legal. It’s also why bump stocks are legal.
It’s splitting hairs and is pedantic, but the tilted and inaccurate narrative only serves to disenfranchise people who lean left but also enjoy firearms.
All that said - restricting access to this vaccine is asinine and needlessly dangerous. To your point, we paid for this medicine with our taxes, our isolation, and unfortunately with many lives. Fuck this administration and the spineless republicans who enable them to trample on our rights.
We still don’t need people to be able to fire more bullets per minute. The risk/benefit for society is pretty clearly against allowing devices like that.
lifelong gun owner and I agree completely
The evidence doesn’t support the outsized FUD. Firearms in general are dangerous. A $500 novelty that very few gun owners will ever purchase or install isn’t a serious safety concern. Seemingly only one instance of one being used in a shooting in Fargo in 2023. That situation was tragic, and the police who responded likely prevented the shooter from committing a larger and more destructive attack. But the fact remains that these things are novelties or gimmicks. They make shooting the gun worse in nearly every way, and have extremely limited practical application.
you just basically shot your argument in the foot, if they aren’t that important to have, then there is no real need to have them in the first place.
Many things aren’t important. Life isn’t about strict necessity.
Shitty argument that subjectively implies a min/max. Exactly how many people need to be killed by rapid-fire mods for you to change your mind? No, don’t butwhatabout some other unrelated statistic… Spell it out. What number of people dying will be enough for you to decide that increasing the fire rate of firearms should not be done?
That’s a good question, how many people need to die from sugar before it’s banned? Or pools without fences? Or animals dying from plastic? Or junk food? Knives? What is the threshold for liberty and safety?
So in other words, these restrictions actually work. Got it.
That ruling is about forced reset triggers, which absolutely replicate automatic fire in all but our pedantic definition of machine gun. I got dragged a bit on another thread for suggesting that they are effectively machine gun conversion devices the same as a DIAS or a Glock switch. People saying that these triggers “only help you shoot slightly faster and aren’t even close to what a machine gun can do.”
I, personally, grew up in the swamp so I just have a machete and pocket sand. And pocket glitter if it comes to that.
This is the prelude to a total ban on all vaccines.
I thought they were the “Keep government out of my body!” party. Seems like a lot of bending over for Uncle Sam’s schlong going on. What happened to “the right to choose which vaccines we take”?
Nah. They just want to impose decisions they think will harm minorities more on people
Is there a way that a vaccine can be “cloned” do that younger people can take them anyway?
It’s technically possible for additional manufacturers to produce it, but making anything more sophisticated than the original smallpox vaccine is tough enough that you’re not going to do it at home. The cold chain requirement for distribution means that it’s unlikely that we’re going to see an effective black market for vaccines either.
Other reporting states that FDA is looking to change their recommendations, not their approvals. I’m not sure what to believe here, but it seems ridiculous to approve vaccinations for some people without “additional testing,” and deny approval for the vaccine for other people, especially when the denied group is defined as healthier.
Not saying this isn’t the case, because :gestures_widely:, but I’m seeing inconsistent reporting on this.
“The F.D.A. will approve vaccines for high-risk persons and, at the same time, demand robust, gold-standard data on persons at low risk,” the officials wrote.
During a “town hall” live streamed on Tuesday afternoon, Dr. Prasad said he thought the new approach to Covid vaccination was “a reasonable compromise,” leaving the shots available to many Americans “but also generating evidence.”
Before approving Covid vaccines for wider use, the F.D.A. “anticipates the need” for new clinical trials in which participants under 65 are randomly assigned to receive the new shots or a placebo, Dr. Prasad and Dr. Makary wrote in the journal.
In other words, Vinay Prasad (appointed by Trump to the FDA for claiming the political left was using the COVID-19 pandemic to end democracy) needs to see more evidence (people dying of COVID-19) before devoting resources towards vaccine development.
I suspect Prasad is a podcast charlatan using his oncologist credentials to advance his career by stoking conservative resentment against mask mandates in order to gain popularity and name brand recognition to sell his personal philosophy books.
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Haven’t read the article, and assume there is some Republican fuckery here.
However, usually things like vaccines/medicine the question is risk vs reward. If you are likely to get it and have a severe case, then the risk of “untested” vaccine/medicine might be worth it. For healthy people the risk of “untested” methods usually isn’t worth it.
That being said, I think in this case its about politics and not risk vs reward.
Someone elsewhere pointed to the paper talking about it - yes, they intend to withhold approvals.
Vinay Prasad is the guy who said if you die, no one cares and your family will forget you even existed.
Tells me everything I need to know about his relationship with his family. Dude must be miserable.
