Went to the pharmacy to pick up my meds yesterday, and they didn’t have my anti-psychotic. This is my first major hurdle since being out of rehab, since drinking was the only way I coped with being without my anti-psychotic. What sucks is that this happened on memorial day weekend so I can’t get this solved until Tuesday. Wish me luck y’all, it’s gonna be a shitty weekend :/
But no matter how bad it gets, I’m not gonna drink about it
Kratom has been very good for me to help with alcohol cravings.
anyone seeking to try kratom who hasn’t already let me note that the powder is the worst tasting shit you will ever encounter in your life, it’s like a grassy, chlorophyll, fermented elephant’s asshole, and it’s hydrophobic as shit so if you just like try to swallow some and chase it with water it WILL coat your mouth and everything will be nasty, gagging agony, if you’re really prone to coughing like i am right now it might actually kill you
so i highly recommend either buying capsules or buying powder and pressing it into capsules
edit: before some tough guy contradicts me like yes you can totally just raw dog that powder, my brother’s old roommate used to drink slurries of that shit, but I literally do not know how he could stand it, it is genuinely one of the worst tasting things I have ever in my life encountered, like imagine if you mowed your lawn and then just brewed a tea of it and then just let it stank for like a few weeks, then dehydrated that into a powder
Fair criticism. You can get used to it though. I mix mine thoroughly with water and shake it up before I take a drink, then immediately chase it with a strong flavored drink. My personal choice is Bang Sour Heads sugar free energy drink.
I haven’t done any research but I can anecdotally report the same. I quit in October using kratom. I was also in active opioid addiction for like 10 years (sober since 2017), so I had to be really careful. But something about kratom makes it manageable for me. I’ll take it a few times a month just to tweak the ol brain chemistry a touch.
it’s like something like a mu opioid agonist or whatever, google that shit for nerd accuracy, but iirc it acts more like a stimulant at lower doses and more like an opiate at higher doses, while also varying between strains kinda like weed because there’s different ratios of psychoactive alkaloids (iirc the main one being mitragynine or something like that)
so anyway, that’s why it’s good for weaning off opiates, it helps trigger some of the same receptors so you don’t get full ass withdrawal from no opiates
Oh it’s definitely a very strong mu agonist. Also, my favorite thing about oxycodone was it, for me, was an upper and then a downer. So l love that kratom has that quality, and even grants you better control over it. I can take 3-4 grams and go to work with a nice mood boost and some extra energy. Or I can take 10 or so for relaxing times.
It’s been quite successful in treating opioid addiction as well. They were just about to ban it in my very conservative state, but the American Kratom Association gave a convincing presentation to our legislature and they changed some minds
I could certainly see it being useful there. And I remember hearing about it back in ‘my day’ but never tried it. I was just worried about it scratching the itch too well and making me want to relapse. And it does give some of the same feelings as opioids. But it doesn’t hook me the same way. I’ll buy a bag of capsules and forget I have them sometimes, which is just not something I’ve ever done with anything.
I wrote the kratom guide on the drug comm of Hexbear, it’s alright but I’m trying not to lean on that as a crutch. I discovered 7-OH towards the tail end of my addiction and it made me uncomfortable with kratom tbh.
I’d rather be sipping some nasty shit than wake up hungover every day miserable. What’s 7-OH?
7-OH is a very powerful alkaloid of kratom that’s present in small amounts in powder, but is now being sold in extracts and pills. I sing the praises of kratom pretty regularly, it’s great from a harm reduction standpoint. I can’t say much good about 7-OH as someone in recovery, it’s about as addictive as real opiates, it’s expensive, it isn’t as good of medication as regular kratom, it’s just a better high.
Thanks for the info. I’ve been taking Kratom long enough that I don’t get a high at all. I just don’t feel like drinking alcohol as much. No desire to try 7-OH either.
Yeah, avoid 7-OH like the plague. It’s more addictive than some opiates I’ve kicked because of just how short lived it is and how steeply the tolerance increases. I’m not for the criminalization of drugs, but I hope it gets banned so that kratom doesn’t if that makes sense. Kratom has been nothing but a help to me in my life. I try to avoid it nowadays because I haven’t used any drugs in 66 days, but there are totally cases I’ll bust out some kratom again. 7-OH has been nothing but a problem to me though, the only reason I’d grab it is if I want to give into my addict brain