So I have recently gotten interested in home plant based meat substitutes like seitan and this guy pops up every time I look for recipe guides on Youtube and I have noticed a few red flags. As an example, he has like 20 different hamburger recipes that all use wildly different ingredients while claiming they are all better tasting than Impossible meat. And of those recipes, most use highly processed or sponsored ingredients that are difficult to get.
I’m not about supporting people who profit from veganism (period, but especially if they aren’t vegan themselves).
I mean if you want the movement to die then go right ahead, because that applies to all influencers and professional advocates.
We as a community (this lemmy comm is for a discord server) are staunchly against all influencers, celebrity worship and businesses who would use veganism and animal rights to grow their businesses to support non vegans. Celebrity worship is toxic. This includes by extension plant-based meats by meat companies. Come into the discord server if you want to learn more about how these companies use marketing and horizontal segmentation and how it works to grow the consumption of animal products with vegan brands. We do not support any businesses here and use generic names as much as possible in our posts for this reason.
https://stevebizblog.com/how-to-crush-the-competition-with-horizontal-segmentation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/VeganForCircleJerkers/comments/q5hkq2/comment/hg63z3b
The way I see it, content creators and “influencers” are the same thing and watching content or reading blogs are not the same as celebrity worship. Technically, all people who work at vegan non-profits are profiting from veganism.
As a person who has worked for various non profits for a long time I don’t support any non profits either. If you like this stuff or support it, that is fine and we are not telling other people what to do but this is a mutual aid community focused on vegan cooking and we exist outside the structures of corporate finance and don’t like it. I don’t like the term content creator and only critically watch any of that stuff.
https://files.libcom.org/files/incite-the-revolution-will-not-be-funded-beyond-the-nonprofit-industrial-complex-2.pdf
Well then… I was hoping this was a place for home cooking vegan food. I didn’t realize it was some anarcho-communist revolutionary gang.
Because to baradar-e Parsi hasti, I will give you the benefit of the doubt
It is a place for home cooking vegan food, why would our opinions on exploitative Youtubers make it not? We literally never talk about this stuff except when someone asks. We are promoting vegan cooking and in no way force our beliefs on anyone. You literally asked us and got an answer that includes why we don’t like him and might explain to you why its more focused on getting hard to get and sponsored commodity ingredients. In javab az to kheili narahat konande ast.
Parsi? As in the religion/ethno-group?
Do you know how hard it is to write Farsi with autocorrect on. I can’t remember if I meant Farsi or Irani there
So I can participate without subscribing to all of these ideas? It seemed implied by the communal speech that this is a unanimous point of view.
We on the discord agree on it and it’s why we have the rule about no brand names. We don’t want this space colonized by ads which happens anywhere you let ads and bloggers in. There are a million communities for that stuff. Our objective is to have people be friends and know where to ask questions and rely on people. The biggest problem with veganism isn’t that there aren’t enough businesses that cater to us it is that vegans don’t have vegan friends and it becomes extremely isolating. Anarchists are people who want to cooperate without being forced and not whatever bullshit you read about tankies online.
I mean this is a lemmy board for pictures. There is no requirements for participating other than being nice and sharing pictures. If you are so averse to reading ideas and intellectually incurious, don’t ask us questions about things and be surprised that we have opinions. No one at any time forced anyone to do anything or required you to think anything.
Which movement? Plant based capitalism or veganism? Veganism will do just fine.
Veganism is more than just not eating animal products. If it’s not anti-speciest, it’s not vegan.
Hamid’s reply has some good information in it. If people find his videos and recipes useful, then great! But I certainly don’t hold influencers in high regards. Their job is engagement and selling.