• outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Iran is shitty and repressive and fucking awful to their people

    But geopolitically they’re a pretty good neighbor. The only person who ever got them to be aggressive was that guy, famous romance novelist, forget his name.

    Like the Austrian dude who keeps women in his basement but always pays his share and half of yours when the fence gets old

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      But geopolitically they’re a pretty good neighbor

      Fucking what.

      Iran should not have been bombed by this administration. But they’re the only force in the region worse than the Saudis for funding proxies and shipping paramilitaries to attack their enemies.

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        I’ll admit that I’m not very clear on what their peoxies actually do? Setting aside the obvious Assad (which, yeah youre right, that’s sure as hell not peaceful) what are they doing with those people?

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          What do you mean “what are they doing with those people”?

          They support their catspaws militarily. Training, supplies, and direct action - as the IRGC in particular has been caught time and time again fighting directly in service to various Iranian-linked militias in conflict zones, including Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, and Afghanistan.

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            No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies? I mean Iraq for example isn’t exactly in active conflict right?

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              No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies?

              Fighting. Killing. Torturing. Intimidating their enemies and local governments. What militias and other paramilitaries in conflict zones generally do. They aren’t sitting around, polishing their rifles and fetching cats from trees, if that’s what you’re thinking.

              I mean Iraq for example isn’t exactly in active conflict right?

              Hundreds still die in ongoing sectarian conflict in Iraq every year, and Iranian-backed militias (most of which were supported and became powerful by Iran’s influence in the past two decades, not recently) muscling in by forces of arms is a major political issue.

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          Oh who are their enemies?

          Most of the Middle East outside of North Africa. Lebanon, Jordan, the Saudis et co, Syria now, hot-cold relationship with Iraq. Israel, obviously; but less obviously, also Fatah. Ukraine, bizarrely enough, which has a dozen IRGC kills to their military’s name.

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              So smaller list than the Zionist terrorists. Who we arm.

              Israel’s current list of enemies is, what? Iran, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, and the Houthis? Egypt and the Saudis et co are anything but enemies of Israel at present. Iraq desperately wants to stay out of the whole mess even as both sides trade missiles over Iraqi airspace.

              Israel is committing genocide, which is a bit of a bigger deal than ‘merely’ supporting genocides and destabilizing governments for lunatic theocratic reasons. If you’re going to contrast Israel negatively with Iran, use that, not the comparable length of their list of enemies.