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    Could the same be said for music?

    Most people haven’t played music since school but I’d argue Chopin’s preludes are not children’s music.

    I wouldn’t really go out of my way to watch sport but man does it have a great atmosphere when with friends and they’re passionate about it.

    It’s quite arrogant to think this way in my opinion.

    As is tying all sportspeople with the same brush. It really shows your ignorance. I don’t like UFC but Jake Shields is one of the few people speaking out in favour of Palestine from the sports world.

    What’s more likely that everybody that was ever good a sport was also an asshole or that you’re misrepresenting people.

    Disclaimer I suck at most sports, but I’m quite goated a pool. Everyone on my pool team was a different kind of person and had different personalities, morals and levels of empathy (all of which had more than you’re showing here.)

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      Music accomplishes something for people other than the person performing it.

      I would argue the same can’t be said for sports.

      As for the “popular kid at school” comment – I didn’t say everyone who was popular was a dick.

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        You imagine

        You don’t have to imagine. Sports is arguably the most consumed thing on this rock mate. Just because we don’t partake in something doesn’t take away from how it touches the real world.

        Just one example I can think of off the top of my head is the Usyk fight last night. That gives a lot of hope and good feelings to the people of Ukraine as they go through a war of freedom.

        There are plenty of people who don’t like music at all and literally never listen to it, but for me I’d top myself if music wasn’t around as it’s an escape for me.

        I hope this doesn’t come across as me going in on you, just highlighting that what matters to us isn’t the same as what matters for others and if we want to be better then we should understand these things as it could help us make connections with other people and be less divisive.

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          There are plenty of people who think boxing is a barbaric display of pointless violence. Something that gained a little traction when a boxer died a week or so ago after his first fight.

          Just as a matter of interest. And yeah, I know you aren’t going on at me personally. I understand it takes all sorts to make a world. And to be honest its no so much “sports” I have a problem with (boxing aside – that I admit I would like to see stopped but that’s a debate for another time) but “professional sports” and things like the Olympics, The World Cup and so on. Where we are encouraged to celebrate “heroes” who can do nothing more than run round in a circle faster than someone else.

          I think that’s where my problems with “sports” tend to come from – not the sports themselves but the… the culture surrounding them and the unnecessary bullshit that goes along with them.

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            So on the boxing, as I said I’m not a sports head, but I did watch it last night as my friends like sport. I don’t know enough about injuries to determine if it should be banned but you can die skiing, do we ban that too. What about crossing the street.

            You do seem to have a bias against sport to be honest. Like nobody makes you celebrate these people as heroes. I personally think it’s pretty damn cool to be the fastest person to run 100m.

            Let me ask you this. What should be celebrated then? Is my job something worthy of doing, as a software developer?

            Again, just because someone is the fastest or strongest doesn’t mean that is there everything.

            Imagine you’re really good a throwing a ball really far and you play whilst a university, you’re studying medicine but sport blows up and you’re offered hundreds of millions a year. You telling me you turning that down?

            With me not being into sports i can think of an example, but let me use music. Queen’s Brian May study physics at university. Pink Floyd were all well educated people.

            If I didn’t know any better I would say your take seems like it comes from bitterness or jealousy of some sort.

            If I don’t like football (soccer) who am I to say that those people don’t have a positive effect on the world. Marcus Rashford writes children’s books and does loads of community work in my city for instance.

            If it’s there level of wealth you have issue with, there are billionaires out here contributing less to society. I’d rather ticket money and shirt sales go to the players than some dude in a suit.

            Anyway, I don’t think any of us are going to come round to the others point of view and no hard feelings. It’s just if the roles were reversed here I might do a little introspection to see if I am being biased or not as I do try to treat everybody the same no matter how you make money, what you look like cause we don’t know shit about next man unless we’ve walked a mile in there shoes.