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    This isn’t about politics in general. It’s about the US election.

    Check out @archcomrade on @midwest.social

    He doesn’t even deny being a Russian troll. He never even asserts being American. Yet literally all the profile posts about is “don’t vote biden”, a solid 8 hours a day. Weirdly during the Russian day and never when Americans would be most active.

    I got banned from political memes for calling him out on it

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      The UK is having a general election in a little over a month, and we have a similar electoral system and a similarly miserable political landscape. It’s fairly applicable here too.

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          Both are first past the post, which is creates a two-party system. There are a lot of other differences, yes, but for the purposes of the post it’s close enough where it counts

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        Well the part about “not voting will support the least democratic party” would work, if there is any significant support for those parties (which there is), but the choices are far from being as clear as in the US, especially because they’ve had several presidents who lost the popular vote but still got elected. Meaning that the smaller tje discrepancy, the easier it is for the corrupt electoral college to go against the popular vote.

        Refraining from voting can be used to reform a system, but if people don’t honestly see that voting Biden is the only reasonable action to take against Trump, then we’re frighteningly close to pretty literally repeating history. Hell, even if Trump loses and even if he goes to prison, the US pretty much on track to repeat the exact history of Germany 100 years ago.

        https://time.com/4192760/hitler-munich-excerpt/

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          Did you reply to the comment that you intended to here? I’m not sure I understand why you’ve said what you said. If that’s just me being thick then please clarify for me, I’m lost

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            The point is that not-voting can be a tool for reform, and can be a reasonable choice. CAN be. But it definitely is NOT in the US presidential election, where not voting is pretty much direct support for Trump, one of the most psychotic world leaders in the last decades.

            Without significant cooperation and a very specific situation though, refraining from voting should not be practiced, and currently a vast majority of the people advocating for it are Russian trolls trying to help Putler’s bitch Trump win the election.

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              Right, but I agree with you about that. I’m just saying the meme also applies well to the upcoming UK election.

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                Insofar that apathy is the greatest tool of oppressor, yes, I would have to agree.

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      Yes, definitely a Russian bot, and not someone who works from home and is active during normal waking hours in Minnesota.

      I don’t advocate anyone getting banned but i think it’s a bit naive to accuse someone who you disagree with as being a foreign agent.

      Go ahead and look through my comments, I’ll happily own up to any comment where I said ‘don’t vote for biden’. I think liberals who obsess over the lesser evil binary 6 months out from an election instead of pushing their candidate to be less shit are themselves just looking for an excuse not to critique their own willingness to accept genocidal complicity.

      Shout out to unruffled for tagging me. Glad to know I’m at least memorable.

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        work from home

        Yeah because Russian trolls just have to work at some lan-party, right? So… where do you live?

        Weird how you keep skipping over that and never actually denying being Russian, isn’t it? Weird how you do literally nothing but post “don’t vote biden”, isn’t it?

        Yeah, your entire post history is “don’t vote Biden”. Please don’t pretend you don’t understand that’s straight up Trump and Putler support. Literally, tell me you understand or disagree with that. You never start posting while it’s day in America. If you actually worked a job with actual hours, in the US, you’d post about 8-10 hours later. You don’t. Sorry, Putler, but your troops are shit. In all meaningful ways. Online and offline.

        The rhetoric you employ is just ridiculously childish. I’ve read a bit of philosophy in my time and yours is barely up to snuff by 19th century propaganda standards.

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          Jesus bud, take a sec to breathe.

          So… where do you live?

          Minnesota is as specific as i’m willing to be with you, sorry if that’s disappointing. But even if I picked a town like ‘Osseo’ arbitrarily, how’d that satisfy this incessant nagging suspicion of yours more than ‘Minnesota’? That’s why I told you it was ‘unfalsifiable’. So go nuts, pick a standard you’d be willing to accept as satisfactory proof that i’m American. Before you ask me to provide it, though, ask yourself if you’d be willing to provide the same personal details to strangers on the internet - i’m willing to bet there is no proof I could provide you that most people would be willing to offer themselves.

          Weird how you do literally nothing but post “don’t vote biden”, isn’t it?

          Like I said, feel free to find any example of me saying that. The most i’ve said is that I understand not wanting to vote for him over his defense of Israel. Admittedly I got sent by the incessant ‘i’m still voting for him’ apologia i kept seeing in that community, so that’s basically all I did on here for a few days. You should know that your continued reaction over it is scratching something of an itch.

          It’s more likely you just think someone with that negative a view of Biden cannot possibly be real, and if that’s what you need to believe in order to ground yourself back to reality i’m happy to play pretend for you.

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            The trouble is you don’t realise how bad you are at this.

            The point isn’t whether you can or can’t prove you’re American. The point is that you purposefully avoided it until I made you lie about it.

            Literally every single one of your posts is for creating division and undermining Biden as “a genocidal fascist who’s not getting my vote”

            https://midwest.social/post/12533264

            All one needs to do is to go to your profile and look at it.

            So, are you still trying to help elect a fascist? Or you understand that not voting for Biden is direct support for Trump, and if so, then you d’you pretend like Trump isn’t a clown who’s been bought by Putler and is his only chance?

            Enjoy. :)

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                Yes, avoid and deny.

                You were so willing to discuss these things the other day, what happened?

                I mean, it’s not like you literally ever talk about anything else so…

                You asked me to link a post or comment by you. I did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                    Literally every single one of your posts.

                    Tell me. Do you deny the existence of Russian state-sponsored trolls? (To do so would be a rathe clear indicator of things, don’t you think?)

                    Now, we know they exist. So what do they look like?

                    Who would they pretend to be?

                    Please, as a red-blooded American I’m sure you’re worried about Russia interfering in yet another election, so how do you think one would go about recognising such a person?

                    Edit almost forgot

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        TBH, I just noticed the typo in your name. If I’d thought for more than 5 seconds about it, I’d have kept it to myself instead of correcting it though. Apologies.

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        For what it’s worth, I ended up getting the boot for calling someone a ‘l!b’, though if I’m being honest I expected it sooner for cooking a little too hard

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      Your submission in “SSDE” was removed for: Attacking other users is against the rules here, too…